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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2020 #272

    That we will agree on👍🏻. Things are far better in the 21st century. The early 20th century in comparison was near Victorian it seems, Barbaric in the attitude too☹️

  • Freddy55
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    edited December 2020 #273

    So, we vaccinate the low risk category that might well still be spreading the virus, leaving the high risk category until later. What could possibly go wrong?

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2020 #274

    I'll stick to it eventually reduces viral load until there is more info.

  • DEBSC
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    edited December 2020 #275

    Not sure if it's the type of jab that hurts afterwards or the person who administers it. Two nurses at our surgery give the flu jab. With one I never have after effects, with the other nurse, always a painful arm for a couple of days. I linger back sometimes to try to get the right nurse but it doesn't always work.

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #276

    It what or whom?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #277

    Last year I had the flu jab in one arm and the shingles jab in the other both done by the same person at the same visit. 

    The flu jab was no trouble at all but the shingles arm suffered badly with redness, bruising and itching and it took a couple of weeks to clear. I was told by the doc that shingles is a live vaccine and sometimes that reaction occurs with the live variety.

    I understand the covid vaccine is not live.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2020 #278

    My expectation is that somebody who has had the vaccination and who subsequently catches Covid and is able to fight of the infection will be less infectious due to a lower viral load eventually

  • Wherenext
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    edited December 2020 #279

    They do say that it is very rare to catch Shingles three times so I might be able to avoid that one having had the dratted thing twice. ( It was a BOGOFF deal).

    At the moment I'm just trying to live long enough to find out.

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #280

    Much of it depends on the amount and SG of the liquid and the speed at which it is delivered.  Thick glup requires a large needle and slow delivery to avoid bruising.  

    PS I imagine that if the vaccine is at minus 70 deg C it may smart a bit.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #281

    It'll be in cubes ❄️

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #282

    TBD.

  • DSB
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    edited December 2020 #283

    It's good news about all the vaccines.  I would be happy to give it a go!  If it hurts a bit, I'd put up with that if I got the protection or helped to save lives.

    Not sure if the vaccine is at -70C when it's administered.  I think that may be just longer term storeage.  Did I hear that it could be kept in a household fridge, safely for a week - or is that another vaccine??

    David

  • brue
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    edited December 2020 #284

    By the time most of us get the vacc it will no doubt be the Oxford version, which should be a lot easier to distribute. When OH and I looked at the tipped over boxes in the vaccine delivery van shown on the TV tonight we both remarked on the care being taken.......laughing

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #285

    I was only joking about the temperature 🤣.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2020 #286

    WN wrote: They do say that it is very rare to catch Shingles three times so I might be able to avoid that one having had the dratted thing twice."

    As they say, "Life's a beach"

  • Wherenext
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    edited December 2020 #287

    In that case Cornersteady won't be having any.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #288

    The low temperature storage issue has been solved........

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2020 #289

    Have just heard on the radio that there could be as many as 20% of Care Home staff that are unlike to accept the offer of a vaccination.surprised

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #290

    On a fairly serious note, earlier today I was told that a local GP practice is about to begin administering the vaccine to over 80's.  They will be contacting the people through Facebook.  I wonder just how many over 80's use Facebook undecided.

  • Pliers
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    edited December 2020 #291

    Yes, the National Care Association are stating that they have found that 20 - 40 % of their  staff would be reluctant to accept the vaccine.

    🤔

  • Pliers
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    edited December 2020 #292

    Sounds a bit stringy to me. Don’t think my GP practice have my Facebook details, but they certainly have my phone numbers, and my home address to contact me.....🤔

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2020 #293

    Don't know if ours practice uses Facebook, never asked as we don't use it. They certainly use texts to contact us about blood tests, flu jabs etc and prior to that the good old telephone. I would assume they will use whatever folk are most comfortable with and generally use.

  • LeTouriste
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    edited January 2021 #294

    It is difficult to say which group(s) should get priority - their being a matter of lives of people being placed in a lottery - so I will avoid that argument.

    What does bother me is, as history shows, there will be mistakes in the administrations of the vaccine. The government are claiming that the time period for the second dose can be extended from 3 weeks to 12 weeks, and among the professionals with the knowledge there is much disagreement about this claim.

    With multiple dosing and the existence of more than one vaccine, I wonder what the chances are of a different vaccine being given for the second dose, and what the ramifications might be for the patient.

    We are in our mid-80’s and are taking sensible precautions.  But we still have to visit supermarkets for our food and other requirements, and we have noticed that many of the shoppers are beginning to get lazy in the way they shop.  One of the most irritating habits is that of leaning across another shopper to reach an article from a shelf, instead of waiting for the other shopper to move along.

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #295

    Our elderly neighbour heard by phone, she was left to make transport arrangements for a Saturday appointment a few miles away. She couldn't cope and declined the appointment. There are a lot of vulnerable people out there.

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #296

    One of Mrs M's friends is a receptionist for one of the surgeries in our town. They have been contacting everyone so far by landlines,  they think the vast majority of over 80's are unlikely to make much use of mobiles! 

    There was an interview with a doctor on one of the news programmes today who said the same thing - and went on to explain how difficult it was going to be to contact those patients who had had the first dose and made appointments for the second which they were now going to have to cancel and re-arrange. That does seem like madness to me - by all means change the arrangements for ongoing vaccinations but surely those who have already had the first dose  (greeted so enthusiastically by our esteemed Health Secretary ) have the right to expect their existing appointments to be honoured?

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #297

    Just to give an update ,when out with Rosa this afternoon an 80 years dog walker had had her first covid injection but both her and her same age neighbour had been called by their surgery and had their second virus vacine due next week cancelled, without any new appointments made?

    Has the 12week idea been implemented?

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #298

    Some surgeries are, apparently, intending to honour their original appointments, but, yes, I think it is now a general 12 week interval.

    https://inews.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-roll-out-gps-furious-second-dose-pfizer-jab-latest-news-813922

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #299

     Is it a general 12 week interval or up to 12 weeks?

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2021 #300

    If you read the link it says "within 12 weeks" - probably another example of dithering until someone is prepared to make a firm decision (or have it made for them!)  frown

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #301

    Our Gp practice? thats a worrying name ,surprised has just our home and mobile numbers  ,