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  • Freddy55
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    edited December 2020 #362

    Looks like I’ve upset the mods again, my apologies.

  • LLM
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    edited December 2020 #363

    Some of the comments mylo has made make it clear that he is ill informed.  Perhaps if he was basing his decisions on accurate information his opinions may change.  

  • davetommo
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    edited December 2020 #364

    What is accurate and what is not. That is a matter of opinion

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2020 #365

    Let’s lighten the mood a little this New Years Eve.....

    One of my highlights has been some of the wonderfully creative, and often very funny (sadly possibly too rude occasionally for on here🙄) parody songs that have filled the internet.

    Here’s a rather good rendition of an old Bee Gee’s Classic, specially for any chums now in a Tier 4...... 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmUXntGlqFI

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #366

    😂😂😂😂Thanks👏👏.

    It's things like that vid help keep us sane.

    Loved the dog🙂

  • Freddy55
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    edited January 2021 #367

    Yeah, right.

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #368
  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #369

    DT, I say to my younger family members-‘Don’t listen to anyone who isn’t qualified to give information, research the science. Official bodies that put news in print can be varified-Frank down the pub or the failed singer from the band QAnon don’t qualify.’ It’s that simple👍🏻

    PS-That includes me, all younger folk know how to use the internet-use it to check up on folk-who is Jonathan Van Tam

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #370
  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #371

    That may have a smidgen of truth but there are some pretty far fetched beliefs floating around IMO. However, at present, it is for each to make their mind up and to consider their own situation. 

    When I am offered the injection I will accept. Not necessarily for my sake but certainly for OH's sake and peace of mind. If I lived on my own I might well not. 

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #372

    Was hoping to post a very funny goodbye to 2020 last night, but couldn’t get my act together to copy the link. But, this interesting parody artist and his family are very interesting, have been keeping lock down Australia entertained. The first clip was done for Mother’s Day, and worth a watch, but the second, a homage to Frank Sinatra sums up 2020 for me.........

    The cakes look good as well.....

    https://m.facebook.com/Ferguson.Plarre/videos/i-want-to-bake-free-an-i-want-to-break-free-lockdown-parody/534060527282747/

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #373

    The chicken & the bra trick was good too for these covid times👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂😂

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #375

    It wasn’t so much tougher back in the day, more like the young basically had no Human rights the Adults could do what they wanted short of murder. I’m so glad it is history too. Victorian attitudes have no value outside the Victorian era with Victorian attitudes.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #376

    Been having  a WhatsApp conversation with a cousin in London. We concluded that most UK folks are so far removed from the the reality of facing killer diseases such as Diptheria, Typhoid, Polio, etc......, and you have to be a good age to have lived through the Nazi’s flinging bombs at you, so the risk of death on a daily basis just doesn’t happen for most nowadays.

    Hence, a few folks don’t know how to act, how to behave, how to cope, how in fact to think clearly beyond individual needs. We don’t have laws, restrictions, guidance in place as a matter of course like some other Nations do, nor is our usual Governmental regime anything that impinges overly much on our day to day freedom’s, unless you are a criminal. So the default reaction for some is to cry “shame, dictatorship, it’s not fair”. Just needs more thought, more looking longer term, taking on board that spoonful of advice. I don’t think some of the decision takers, and front of TV podium deliverers (political one’s) have helped, in fact they are part of the problem, but it’s what we have, and still needs listening to, even if through gritted teeth.

    Best advice? 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #377

    I am one who never grew up David. I am terrified of needles and hyperventilate smile

    Hate blood tests also despite having had plenty. And yet I have calmly sterilised a Stanley Knife to cut a metal fragment out of my shoulder. 

    Felt sorry for an army squaddie on last visit. They had two chairs going. I was sweating in one trying to relax for the needle. Young muscled squaddie sat in the next chair apparently blasé. Poor lad passed out like a light. Yes I know it is ridiculous. When I was in hospital aged 40 for an orchiectomy for testicular cancer;  A nurse came into my side room after the op and said that the doctor had prescribed morphine as he knew that I would be in a deal of pain. I said know, I am in pain I'll mentally block it. smile

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #379

    But in those days it worked   ,look what has happened with the refusal of the  parents  of some of the children when it was, as now, false information,  that was taken as gospel by some parents with the MMR vacine,undecided

    It does show how gullible some of the population are when they take the TV soaps as real lifeyell

     There is little chance when anything that is put out on some social media is all true with some of the populationfrown

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #380

    Thanks Rufs👍🏻, that’s how to get thu to the anti-vaxers not by attacks but by clever imagery👏🏻👏🏻

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #382

    Dentist does it for me ET. Loathe going, but I go. Back in the 90’s I endured horrendous tooth abscesses (stress, I grind🙄). The only pain I have endured worse was dislocation. The cure, no matter how I loathe it is far, far better than the alternative. I just get on with it, without dwelling on the what if’s.  

    I am sure lots of folks don’t think twice about having inoculations for travelling overseas, they just get on with to enjoy something, eliminating the risks. This is the same, except the journey is .......life?

    That’s how my 91 year old Mum looks at it. She still in there, diphtheria got her two cousins, the First World War took her half sister’s Dad, the Nazi’s didn’t get her, so this is nothing, just 20 minutes x 2 of what she has left🤷‍♀️

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #383

    That is what the Ward sister i meet dog walking (she does look tired) has said about those individuals

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #384

    Parents could refuse things in the 50s AD, I was at school with someone who never had any vaccinations. (I think she went into the Navy later, I bet she had to catch up on a few jabs!!) Needles got sterilised via a bunsen burner, I remember the smell of the gas and the perpetual flame....wink

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2021 #385

    Seems lots of folks are surprised at how normal New Zealand’s celebrations were last night. Shining example of what can be done with co operation and good governance. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2021 #386

    My youngest daughter received a test kit for her autistic son after he was sent home from school with 'symptoms'. She would not attempt it again. 

     

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  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #388

    It's called the "elimination strategy" there is an interesting article about it in the Bristish Medical Journal. Whether we could have shut ourselves down in a similar fashion with a much bigger population is something I expect will be debated in the future. Everything hinges on vaccination now for us and them.

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  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #390

    Hope the people looking after her can find a way round this, it's one for the professionals isn't it? I think there is an oral Covid solution on the way, so there's hope for many. smile

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2021 #391

    Is there a plan to eventually vaccinate younger adults, and children?

    I know the scientists do not yet know whether the vaccines will stop those vaccinated still carrying the disease and spreading it to others, which is worrying, especially for those who may be advised not to be vaccinated on health grounds.  It seems to me that those in that position may well have to remain in a type of lockdown permanently, or decide to take the risk, one way or another, a very difficult decision.

    I reckon the responsible thing to do is to get vaccinated when you are offered, to protect yourself, and others, as much as possible.