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We had been booked to visit York for many months. As soon as I heard we were in tier 3, I knew we were not going to be able to go. Naturally we are very disappointed. I also knew that I had to cancel the booking. We were so disappointed that I couldn't bring myself to do it immediately, promising myself that I would do it this afternoon. Before I could do so I had a lovely phone call from the warden advising me that she would have to cancel our booking. I thanked her for her call and told her that as soon as we could travel, we would be rebooking. If you live in York, please be reassured that the club are protecting you and others staying on the site by ensuring that those of us unfortunate enough to be in tier 3 will not be travelling to the sites.
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We are booked into a site in Devon from 23-30th December. We booked it so that we could visit our son who we have not seen for a year since he moved down there for his work. The only time he has any time off is between Christmas & New Year and our intention was to meet him for a day at the beach, socially distanced outdoors. We live in rural Lincolnshire but have been placed in tier 3. We haven't mixed with anybody at all since March, all our shopping is done online. I am concerned about the amount of traffic we will encounter if we have to travel back on the 27th as opposed to the 30th as originally planned unless of course, we drop back into tier 2 on the 16th. As someone else said, we are totally self sufficient in our motorhome, will take all our food with, we are booked onto a fully serviced pitch and the only thing we will need to do is walk the dog and empty the toilet.
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I can't understand why one does not find the idea of caravanning at any time of the year attractive....but each to there own.
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I guess all the heads of the regional governments knew that whatever restrictions they tried to impose over the Xmas period would be ignored by a very large number of their citizens. Trying to police those restriction would have been a nightmare so they've decided that perhaps with the relaxation no more, and possibly even less families will decide to mix. I think whatever they had decided to allow they were on a no-win situation.
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I think you're probably right Nellie, but the message that "we think you'll ignore the rules so we'll relax them anyway" hardly inspires confidence in the decision makers!
And, importantly, the scientists don't seem particularly happy about it.
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I don't think that the decision makers had much option. Just look what has happened with the huge protests in Germany and France, who have had stricter lockdowns. It's no wonder that their cover numbers have jumped up so much from a lower base than we got to.
Agree that there's every chance of a spike following on from the holiday period, and I wonder too what will happen during the New Year celebration......strange that nothing has been mentioned about that week end.
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I think nelliethehooker is right. Also gives a cloak (of invisibility 😉) for students returning home for the holidays, so if numbers shoot up it can't be down to allowing students to start/return from uni. Cynic moi?
Advice is against playing board games and go for quizzes at get togethers. Some will feel spared and others feel argumentative. No change there then...... Not heard any mention of avoiding mistletoe 😘 but I would anyway, although I probably flatter myself these days 😱🤣.
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There's going to be a lot of pressure from Boris's back benchers this week, at least in the South West, to move areas into a lower tier on December 16, the date of the first review. That would surely be a mistake and send the message that "we're over the worst". Christmas and New Year will be a real problem and the prospect of another lockdown in January & February must surely loo large in their thoughts even now.
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I can't understand how some expect to be given special status when, although their relatively small area has a low rate it is surrounded by areas of high infection rates. All that would happen is that a number of residents from the higher tier would head into the lower tier area to go for a meal etc with the chance of spreading the infection.
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ISTM that the the Christmas moratorium was partly defeatist as widespread non-compliance with minimal enforcement capability was anticipated and partly as a sop to back-benchers to prevent a major rebellion. It certainly doesn't appear to "follow the science". I fear we will all regret the concession. A vaccine is close. Just hang in there folks.
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I'm not so sure JVB rightly or wrongly (wrongly in my opinion) the government have totally relaxed the rules over Christmas. Including unlimited travel. Surely it would be better for someone visiting relatives more than a day trip away, to take their caravan to stay in rather than utilise a hotel or their relatives home. They would then have the option of only meeting up outdoors if they want to.
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- When out with Rosa this morning while the dogs were still ignoring social distancing
a group( 5) of us had a "discussion" on the latest lockdown tiers (we have gone from one into two despite a falling rate and was before lockdown) - One of the group blamed this last wave on the government for letting UNIs open without accepting that students were going to be one of the main spreaders
- And the consensus was as has been said ,,the "advise" from what ever source, was going to be ignored by many,over Christmas and will be including New Year ,but lets see who gets the blame when we have a third possibly worse than this wave in the early part of 2021
0 - When out with Rosa this morning while the dogs were still ignoring social distancing
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We are not doing anything special for Xmas, keeping to our bubble, just video calls/texts to others. We have promised ourselves a big hello when it’s safe for all to do so.
Our area has been under the severest tier, or in full lockdown for around nine weeks now. It’s more than halved our case rate, hospitals are coping, urgent other medical procedures are still getting done depending on severity, so the balance is there. As someone said last night on TV news, the vaccines are not far away now, a few more weeks. We won’t undo all our months of discipline and doing our best to take unnecessary risks at this stage. Sticking to our “carefully risk assess” mantra.
The sheer randomness of this terrible virus is what helps it flourish.☹️
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We would not be indoors with the heating on on our usual 15 day December break. Unlikel to go out Christmas day. On the arrival day it would be, put heating on, Pop out to Morrisons to do some shopping and have a bite to eat. The other 12 days we would have been out for around 5 hours having a walk and the odd coffee or food.
From April to October we are away together for 4 months and together 24/7. From November until March we re ships that pass in the night as I detest TV and OH probably turns it on bout 6pm. Our 15 day December break means that we get exercise and spend far more time together
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Hi Rowena, I am confused! We live in Cumbria a level 2 area, but it looks like we could book to go to your Scotland sites, Melrose or Stonehaven, but I thought we weren’t allowed to travel and stay overnight anywhere in Scotland! Please can someone advise ?
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Thankyou for this but it still doesn’t clarify why I can book a site such as Melrose because it states travel to and from other areas of Uk as essential travel only! Wales is clear . If you don’t live in Wales you can’t stay at Welsh sites and that is fine. I just wish Scotland would say you can or can’t travel from England to stay on sites!
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if I have done that right, it takes you to the page where it says you should not travel between Scotland and other parts of UK for other than essential reasons.
And states that this applies to travel in or out.
The fact you seem to be able to book a site does not negate the rules.
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That seems clear enough, Kjell, as if the 26th Nov. However it doesn't state whether or not those rules apply for "5 days of Christmas" .
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What are the rules on travel?
Travel restrictions will be relaxed from 23 to 27 December to allow people to travel between local authority areas and the four UK nations to join a bubble.
If you are using public transport, the advice is to book ahead where possible and follow the rules on wearing face coverings while travelling.
Anyone travelling to or from a Scottish island should make their journey within the five-day period from 23 to 27 December.
Once you have arrived, you should then follow the travel guidance which applies in the area where you are staying. If that is in level three or four, for example, you would have to avoid any non-essential travel outside that council area.0 -
Thanks ET. Hope that these last posts are enough explanation for Over65etc.
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February or November? Can recommend Coromandel Peninsula.
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