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Southport has certainly seen better days AD. A definite downturn over the last 20 years in the town itself.
I doubt that I had visited the town area since 1985 until 2000. In 2000 Fliss had started back into work and could not match my leave. I decided to go to Southport for 6 nights in mid December and do my Christmas shopping and chill. I loved it. Also loved the Lancastrian accents which were much more common then. I looked on the internet and found an expensive set of apartments as well as many B&Bs. I phoned the chap up and had a natter. All he had was a two bedroom apartment coming available or my dates. I phoned and explained that it offered more than I needed for myself and was more than I wished to pay. It was available from my proposed arrival date as the people using it had been there a month and were leaving to Australia could we do a cheaper deal .... a bird in the hand. What a lovely apartment full of repro furniture. In the fridge cheese butter, fresh baps, ham and some cake, milk etc. Lovely place. 5 minutes walk to town or sea front.
I had two visits to the venue attached to the main theatre to entertainment from a major folk group whose name escapes for the moment and for a comedian. Two films at the in town cinema, two nights at a piano bar with a lovely Jazz pianist and singer. The town was a delight and full of lovely welcoming people. The piano bar is no longer. Theatre closed and also the in town cinema.
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Well put, TDA , Brue and WN.
There is no guarantee that the SW will come out of the current influx of tourists as well as we did in the summer when infection rates were lower. That's why we should take no chances but take appropriate precautions rather than risk lives.
People tend to forget that the SW, and Cornwall in particular, has little or no resources to call on in bordering counties. It's not at all like the Midlands or Home Counties but more like an island.
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It will be interesting to see how much money is given to Wales to help all the businesses there that have been required to shut down, as a result of their national lockdown even though some are in low infected areas, when businesses in England which are in tier one and get no help at all from the government, even though suffering significant problems due to the same pandemic.
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Hi everyone,
Just a polite reminder to take any off topic conversation to the relevant forum areas as this discussion has drifted off topic at times.
Many thanks,
Rowena
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That’s something we'll never know but 2m visitors came to Cornwall post lockdown when recorded rates were falling. We are now in a situation where areas of the country are back in stages of lockdown/restrictions because rates are rising again. Hence, we cannot expect replication of the earlier outcome as a given and need to be cautious. A crystal ball would be extremely useful.
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The infection rates are it seem higher in our area than a couple of months ago ,but the testing rates are also higher than then,so it could also be that infections were even higher before when testing was lower,and "carriers" with little or no symptoms are now being counted as well
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Sealskinz?, I’ve got one of their beanies with lining👍🏻. Fantastic in high wind, freezing conditions. I made the mistake of wearing it on a cold day without the wind-15mins into the hike & I was sweating, geez Sealskinz know their stuff👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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well testing is a bit of a shambles anyway, my daughter and her OH both tested positive, but 3 children not eligible for test as they were not showing symptoms, but my daughter and OH think it is very possible that they caught covid19 from one of the children.
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It's strange in the SW as we're in a sort of voluntary lock down, when the visitors arrive we keep away from many areas like the coast and scenic spots. The next two weeks for us will mean we don't go out as much.
That said I hope everyone has a good half term, families have a break from routine and work if they can and the rest of us continue to make the best of the current difficult situation.
When the clocks go back I fear I won't know what time it is let alone what day!!
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The "problem" as some see it with tourists ,was some years ago spelt out ,,when talking to a local at a well used tourist spot, she and her hubby( passed away last year) were well known to us said to OH when on the bus together
"my dear if we did not have all the visitors we would not have such a thriving community ,that their money is keeping it as vibrant as it is"
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No surprise there. It's well known that tourism brings much to our economy.
The only problem I have is with a possible invasion of covid, not tourists themselves.
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Quite a few are on standby. Some were re purposed to provide additional health services for the regions once the initial first wave subsided, but have probably gone over to being Covid only again.
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Hopefully, by having these Nightingale hospitals to fall back on we wont have the usual overcrowding in A&E which always happens at this time of year every year, with or without covid.
Edit. It will be interesting to see if there are fewer cases of flu this year than in previous years as a result of all the restrictions were are under at present. Who knows, if that is the case, they may impose the restrictions every year even if covid is brought under control with a vaccine.
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Not sure the reopening of the Nightingales will have any impact on A&E. The one in Manchester will be reopening but is earmarked for the Covid ‘recovery’ patients to free up beds for those still needing treatment.
A family friend’s daughter works in Warrington General Hospital and she tells us that although numbers are increasing patients do seem to be getting better more quickly than in the first wave - presumably because of the range of treatments now available but are still blocking beds before they can be discharged.
The problem controlling the spread of the virus is that it spreads easily, especially within households. A friend from the park where we walk the dog most days is isolating because her granddaughter tested positive 2 weeks ago and then the whole family got it (5 of them).
My niece’s family consists of her and husband and her 27 year old daughter whose boyfriend moved in with them in May when the first lockdown started. He tested positive 10 days ago having caught it from a work colleague in Manchester (he’s a plasterer). The rest of the household is still isolating until Wednesday but so far haven’t succumbed. This is due to scrupulously cleaning, him keeping to his bedroom (food left outside the door) and having 2 bathrooms so he has exclusive use. Towels etc are dropped into a plastic Garden true and chucked straight into the washing machine.
So it is possible to minimise the spread but very difficult in houses with less space, fewer bathroom and where children are present.
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I have experienced something similar. I have to say I don't think I knew anyone personally who had covid during the first wave, probably because there wasn't the testing that there is now. However, already during this wave I am aware of several people, both friends and family, who have tested positive for the virus but all have only had very minor symptoms and have thankfully recovered without any problems. The biggest problem was their families having to isolate causing quite a bit of disruption. Luckily I wasn't in contact with any of them at the time, as I have been keeping my distance ever since the pandemic started, so it didn't affect me.
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There is a big difference now to the first wave, Then it was warm, dry and people were outdoors. Now its Cold, wet and indoors. Just what was predicted would cause the second wave, More reason for isolation/lockdowns. However there is no hope after the so called Celebrities including Cummings MPs etc and now the Barbarian Rugby Team just flaunt the rules.
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My daughter's long term OH has been self isolating and it comes to an end on Sunday so he can return to work Monday.
Just one of his shifts is a night one and it is normally Sunday 10pm to Monday 6am. However he been told that he must not come in at 10pm Sunday and must come into work at 00:01 on Monday morning.
Is that covid madness?
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It is so easy to point fingers at others but really all you can do is look after yourself Fish and you will be fine.
Everyone knows what to do to minimise the risk of catching it, lockdown or not.
btw I won't be indoors next week no matter what the weather
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