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A&J-‘who can say?’. . .That’s easy, anyone with sense could say & would not allow folk from mega high covid virus areas into one of medium or low covid virus areas. If it’s done for money then how much money does the hotel place on a life/lives further down the line. That from the Hoteliers is crass, stupid & indefensible☹️
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The problem of Second homers/visitors is basically the stress on the NHS. You are register in the NHS at your main residence. That area board then receives a pro rata sum to cover the population and number of hospital beds. The second home is not registered for such but if you fall ill there you are entitled to NHS services as everyone else. That means yo could be taking up a critical bed earmarked for a local. That was the main reason the Senedd asked Boris to stop entry into Wales and with no reply did so themselves at 6pm last Friday. Many however used the time lag to uproot from areas 2 & 3 for here. They are seen out in the community not having self isolated and may be carriers. Is that right in the present situation? Likewise is it fair for everyone that touring still carries on with the same result?
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As you say, we must all do what we consider reasonable and responsible. I've no quibble with anyone who chooses to stay at home; my final sentence (the one you quote) was in reply to what I considered a rather rude and judgemental post to which I was responding.
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Our co op is in what was two small shops with a one way system round the store ,and as said there is not much space between the shelves,,there is a limit of seven customers allowed in at any one time at first they had staff on the door ,but now a new counter system has been installed which basically works ok as the sliding door will not open when seven are inside, ,which includes the post office counter that at times is a "problem for some"? especially on Tuesdays
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That is something i find hard to understand about second homers? as you say what is better for the local "services" a house occupied 365 days of just a few days/weeks
Our GD has had to isolate at Nott Trent Uni because one of her accommodation students tested positive and was Newquay ,so it is just supposition that the second homers bring the infection to holiday spots
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That sounds like it's working.... I think so much depends on the individual store and how they choose to deal with this really difficult time. One of our local Co-Op stores have also installed a couple of self service tills since the lockdown in March, so you don't even need to pay someone in person.
David
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Anyone who has toured the remote areas of the Highlands and Islands of Scotland will know what a huge difference the Co-op shops make. All power to them!
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Although you can pick up the virus along with your shopping apparently the spread occurs in homes. Wuhan tackled this by removing people who tested positive from their homes and putting them in field hospitals and drones where used telling the unwary to put masks on etc....even in Mongolia according to a Lancet article. >HERE< The mystery is where did they recruit and train all the extra staff?
Re- holidays, it's been stated several times by tourism and health leaders in the SW that the huge influx of holiday makers didn't increase virus numbers locally. We had an outbreak in a food plant and another at Exeter Uni but generally the numbers have remained low.
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"Re- holidays, it's been stated several times by tourism and health leaders in the SW that the huge influx of holiday makers didn't increase virus numbers locally."
I'm guessing that that is because, like us, most holiday makers spend the great majority of their time outdoors. Even the masses on Bournemouth and other beaches early on didn't result in the great spikes that were feared. The "second wave" has come after schools and uni's were re-opened and folk were encouraged to "get back to work" resulting in many more crowded indoor venues.
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Yet in Whitby the LA put the spike there(one of the highest on the East coast) firmly down to visitors not masking up🤷🏻♂️.
PS-York too, they are now under high restrictions.
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This is a fantastic example of adapting and setting a very high bar from a difficult situation and rather than just sitting at home and moping this cyclist did the opposite. It has also made a new word - burbing
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Not sure about Whitby, but maybe with York that's just confirms the point about indoor venues. Yes folk will be out and about but the vast majority will surely be spending time in the Minster or Yorvik or Rail Museum etc? And of course narrow crowded streets like The Shambles?
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I think I was the first to mention the Co-Op. Don't get me wrong I like the Co-Op stores and as TW mentions they often serve far flung communities very well. We often use them whilst we are away. As an aside one Co-Op we used in Scotland was the only place I have been able to buy a Onion Bhaji flavoured sandwich
However in urban areas where the choice of shop (not only Co-Op's) is often dictated by how easy it is to get to, local stores tend to have a much wider demographic amongst its customers and with that wider demographic a wide range of attitudes to the virus!!! So my point is that such stores in some areas are at greater risk than say a much larger supermarket especially if you avoid the busy times.David
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Myself and the Gkids are going to do something similar next week, starting with a tour of the Hampshire Harbours approx 35 miles, i did this a few years ago for the British Heart foundation, it covers Gosport, Southsea, Portsmouth, Portsea Island, Havant, Hayling Island, Fareham and we will then head to the beach house at Meon Shore for some well earned sustenance. No point moping around indoors, just hope weather is like today, gorgeous.
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Not sure what that reply has to do with my post on how a committed cyclist found new ways to raise his personal bar on cycling rather than complaining and moping about the current conditions. A lesson for us all? One can either keep complaining or find new challenges and get on with life?
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Folks have all sorts of reasons for doing what they do, and the vast majority who post on here sound sensible. It’s a rare person who doesn’t venture outside their NHS “area”, so that one tends to be swings and roundabouts in truth. It can be fortunate if something happens in a different location. I have a BIL who had a serious stroke whilst at Carradale. He was flown very quickly to Glasgow, which is possibly the best Stroke centre in UK. He survived thankfully.
I doubt Nellie has any kind of bar, he’s like most of us, enjoys doing what interests and suits him. Just fortunate that at the moment it’s easier than going overseas, and I can sympathise with those missing their choice of adventure.😁
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Corners, you are my lockdown hero. I have thoroughly enjoyed all your cycling adventures and photographs, and your mileage frankly is staggering. I read on in awe👏👏👏
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