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Yes it is a New Town. It was designated so on 20th May1948. Originally built privately in 1919 (which makes the whole place 50 years younger than my house) it was put into public ownership in 1948. Our town is slightly older, 1066. William the Conqueror’s half brother liked the look of the area....
I rest my case.
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so you're saying that in 'less responsible area',which I assume means higher infections, there should be a local tax?
That is just amazing, and I mean that in a bad way. People get ill and then they have to pay for it? Is that what you are saying?
Personally I do not mind my taxes being used in any area.
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So ,where are we now ? , when this virus first hit everyone looked out for each other and helped out where needed, politicians worked together to try and work out what to do for the best (with social distancing) , now a few months down the line there seems to be a free for all , and finding excuses for not doing the sensible thing . If some don’t start to listen as to what they should do ,then this virus will be with us for a long time , do I have an answer ? ,no I don’t ,but I know if I minimise my contact with other people if will help and go out only when necessary . Those in charge and not in charge should be working together, not scratching each other’s eyes out .
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That may be so, but for some Mayors it isn't open far enough. As I understand it, some would prefer to stay on tier 2 and risk the virus spreading even further rather than take the financial help that is offered on tier 3. This is a terrible position to take when peoples lives are at risk. The financial package offered may not be as generous as they wish, but surely it would be better to accept what is on offer rather than risking peoples lives.
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I am surprised there is a high percentage of residents on benefits, it seemed a prosperous and pleasant place when we visited the local CAMC site a few years back.
Only 20 miles from Central London, plenty of companies with Offices etc in the area, I would have thought employment prospects would be good.
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I do hope you didn't mean that comment in the way it reads, JVB. What happened to "all in this together"? And how on earth can an "area" be "less responsible"? Even here in leafy Wiltshire we have our share of folk who, shall we say, find it difficult to act responsibly - I'm sure your area has just as many. This is a national problem our government is supposed to be dealing with and there's already evidence of a lack of even handedness. Let's not turn this any further into an "us versus them" crisis.
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It is easy to be fooled when you visit a locality, Kj. I bet not many folk visiting the gorgeous city of Bath know a jot about the poverty stricken Twerton and Southdown areas. One very rarely gets a complete impression of an area when just visiting.
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So things have really gone downhill lately?
https://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/march-2019-welwyn-hatfield-unemployment-figures-1-6026706
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Don't fall into JVB's trap of blaming just mayors, Compo. (It’s a back door way of attempting to make this a party political issus).
As I understand it, certainly as far as Greater Manchester is concerned to day, there is widespread unease about the details of the government's proposals, not least from amongst its own MPs. Similar to the criticism from the (conservative) mayor of West Midlands. Local politicians standing up for their local constituents - nothing wrong with that, surely? 2 -
We have a similar problem in our cities up here M, but I was more thinking of things like unemployment, which I later found was reported as low in the area, as I expected from its proximity to central London.
Uncertain now as to what all these "benefits" are that JV is referring to, unless he is including a high number of pensioners!
Also, kids still staying with parents Is a nationwide thing. However if they are employed they could rent privately rather than waiting for social housing, and of course they should be able to save quite a bit if earning but not paying rent.
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It just shows how it is always thought of being an afluent area ,it might be for some and those on the outside looking in ,but as many areas of the country there are some that money is trying to find something to spend it on (there iare several houses in our road it seems come within that ) but then there are plenty at the other end of the spectrum
And with rents including LA properties at over £1000 per 28 days ,there are many, including those in such properties claiming benefits,
so as for youngsters leaving home to get any sort of housing is beyond them
over £300,000 for two bed terraced ex council in need of modernisation.
wages/salaries in this area are all relavent to the cost of living in this area ,as our friends from a vallage in Notts have said "its no wonder you do not want to move from this area" even as we could buy two larger houses with more ground in their village if we sold ours
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OH had family in Watford, we used to visit often. We thought the area around London fine to visit for a few weeks, see the sights etc, but far too busy and crowded for our liking. We were always glad to get home again!
Wages are certainly higher than in most other areas, but not so much higher that people should dismiss the idea of moving to a less expensive area. The reduction in income Is generally found to be more than compensated for by the reduction in housing, and most other, costs. And no need to commute so far either!
Unless family ties were keeping us in such an area, we would not hesitate to move in your position. I was reading just recently that now that working from home is becoming much more feasible, demand for homes in more remote areas is climbing steadily, so seems many like the quiet life.
We would not move anywhere remote these days, at our age it is good to be not too far from good health provision, so we are happy with where we are. Nice quiet area, short drive to the scenery of Loch Lomond and a little further to the Trossachs, short drive to hospitals and plenty of larger shops within 15/20 minute drive. Best of both worlds for us.
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At our age that is why we would not move as in the past we have to much on our door step all our needs for our age group are within max half hour journey ,even all the main NHS services with a half hourly bus service to them and shops for whatever we need less than a quater of a mile walk
And open country and ancient woods the same distance as the shops to walk the Rosa ,when younger we would walk to town through the woods just over a mile as it is on the footpaths and road
So even if unable to drive we are not isolated
the house is the kids inheritance ,
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This morning I was looking through the Track and Trace results which are published on line. Columns of various statistics to plough through but the one that caught my eye was where the infection rates cover places visited and the most likely one is still supermarkets and shopping, coming in above bars and pub visits.
I'm continuing with my delivery slots, I presume the next best thing is click and collect. But it pays to get a reality check.
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One of the reasons we came home early from our tour brue. We felt safe enough on the sites and out walking but not so much doing the shopping, particularly in unfamiliar places. At home we have Tesco.com and our local village shops, which we are much happier using. If we do go away again in the van this year, it will just be for 3 or 4 days and we will take all our supplies with us.
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We are same brue. Other than mask and gloves on for the odd pop in for fresh milk, veg, we have stuck to deliveries. So many places now doing deliveries, it’s dragged some companies into 21st century at long last.
Doesn’t surprise me around shopping. I doubt it’s the big supermarkets, I have been in a few occasions and they have been empty. But the small shops, like local corner shops, small Tesco Extras etc are horrendous here, full of students, elderly folks and others who simply don’t bother with a mask. I don’t expect shop staff to do more than politely ask, it’s not their role to get into confrontation. But we choose our shop very carefully, and the time we go in.😱
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I think that’s the key AD. You go with whatever personal decisions you feel happy with, with due care for others as well, and just chill out to be honest.
We had done our main research and decision making back in March, stuck to it, amended using car, and actually having a holiday when it was possible to do so, sorted out any priorities like routine health checks, MOTs, getting some essential house tasks done. Other things have been a bonus.
We are very aware of how lucky we are, being able just to stay at home, no one other than Mum to care for, no school runs, no reliance upon routine health appointments, even the dog is as chilled out as could be. But we remain grateful and thankful to all those not as lucky, and want to do our little bit by not becoming a health risk. At the moment, no desire to be out there again touring, we have lots to do at home, and very happy doing it. We might do a little break for OHs birthday, but depends on what is happening around the time. Once students start to head home for Christmas, it’s not rocket science to predict what is going to happen..........
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Well I never..........Lancashire County Council have resisted tier 3, the rebels have asked for more, the wallet has been opened, how much would you like? Ok, we’ll do it. It’s not a political decision of course..........
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I would agree about the shops, we have been out for the last 2 weeks and have notice that folk have totally forgotten about the 2m distance. The majority are wearing masks but in the shops, Aldi, Lidl, Morrisons, Tesco are the ones we have used folk are back to having little group chatting, leaning over you to get into the fridges and freezers etc. No longer are we seeing folk stop and give you space.
Lidl in Peterborough has to be the worst we have suffered so far, not an experience I want to do again.
We are going back home on Monday, rather than take our time we are doing 2 one nighters. I will feel happier and safer back in my own low risk area.
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Yes, it’s a better result to protect workers, more money. Which in essence is what the negotiations are all around. They have even managed to persuade Govt that they don’t need to close the LCs and Gyms, which isn’t going down too well in Liverpool area, where they have been told to close. So it’s Tier 3A, and Tier 3B now.
I wonder if Burrs CP and Blackpool Sites might stay open. 🤷♀️
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