Possible new Covid restrictions next week
Hi all,
We have booked a week at Coniston Park Coppice site from Sunday and just seen on the news that there are likely to be further restrictions for the North England from next week.
We live in Manchester where there is possibility that the rules will state that there is 'a ban on overnight stays away from home'.
Surely that means staying in other peoples homes, and staying on site, in our own bubble is permittable?
The rules are so confusing.
Thanks
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Not what you want to hear I guess but, If I were to read "a ban on overnight stays away from home" I'd take that to mean stay at home and not go away to stay anywhere else.
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We live in Manchester where there is possibility that the rules will state that there is 'a ban on overnight stays away from home'.
what they are advocating is that people should not sleep away from their own home, so that could mean no going away in your LV. My SIL works for a large UK holiday company and it would appear they are lobbying the government to try to avoid such drastic measures , including a total shut down of campsites etc over the half term period, in an effort to get people to stay at home so the virus is not carried around the country , as i said in a previous post, my SIL had just tested positive , and when the virus is this close to home you realise just how important some of these measures are, we are now having to self isolate for 2 weeks
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As ever, we wait and see exactly what is to be allowed and what isn’t. For what it’s worth, all we did was make sure any travel plans we had included a refund if the situation changed, then we just got on with it without worrying, carrying out our own self imposed restrictions on what we chose or not to do.
Anything with the Club will be ok. No deposits paid, Club will shut Sites if advised to do so, so the decision is firstly yours if you want to travel on the understanding it might be cut short. And dependent upon what you intend doing while away, as that might impact on your enjoyment. (Not counting the weather, you either do or don’t cope with this😂)
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We have a cottage booked in that area next week so will be listening out for any announcements with great interest. It is privately owned, not booked through a company and the owners promised us a full refund or change of dates when we booked it some time ago. It would not affect us if pubs/restaurants were closed although we'd use them if they were open. We'll just have to wait and see.
The frustrating thing is that the delay in announcing any new measures seems to be down to bickering between cabinet ministers - I just wish they guy in charge would get a grip and get on with things.
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To be fair if we do manage to get up there we will be keeping away from as many people as possible, not going in any pubs and just going for walks and sitting around the van
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I think you are overlooking what is happening closer to home, e.g. check out France, Mr. Macron has ordered the closing of all pubs, clubs etc in Paris and Marseille for at least 2 weeks and similar is about to happen in other EU countries
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My daughter and family were without symptoms but had tests to show they were clear of disease before coming down from London to Cornwall. I trust Club members who are still travelling into areas with low infection will do the same. It would be selfish to go otherwise .
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How do people Without symtoms? get tested ,as it specifically states not to go for testing or have they had what it seems is the not reliable home kits
but as our pharmacist said when i had my flue jab, a covid test is only on that day it does not mean that two hours after ,you have been infested some how
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In my book 'a ban on overnight stays away from home' means exactly that!
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My daughter and family were without symptoms but had tests to show they were clear of disease before coming down from London to Cornwall.
very noble, but unfortunately it is people who have no symptoms who then get tested who are blocking the system. my son in law woke tuesday morning with hacking cough and temp, he is a doctor, tried to get a test and was told that the IOW was nearest test station that had slots available, this would have meant going on the ferry to the IOW and therefore needlessly having to come into contact with others, fortunately after much hassle he was tested in Southsea, positive
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WTG I agree. It’s all symptomatic of the shambolic decision making. Folks want clear, firm guidance, backed up by reasonable authority, for a time given period. Not easy, but necessary for the good of the majority.
Its not noble Rufs. It’s what we should expect. Right from the outset it was obvious that testing and tracing and enforcing quarantine was the recognised way forward to protect the majority. It’s didnt happen, it still hasn’t happened and frankly I for one have given up hope of ever happening. Too much money wasted, resources squandered, good will totally thrown out by those in decision making positions. We are the disgrace of Europe in terms of dealing and managing this pandemic. The death toll shows it, the case rates show it, it goes on.......
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No Rufs, people without symptoms cannot get tests by the usual method. They have to pay and go elsewhere.
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yes i get that, but unfortunately people are saying that they have symptoms when they dont, just so they can get a test for their own peace of mind before they go visiting etc....I have spoken to people who have done this .
But at least in our case track and trace is working, was contacted by the system 1 hour ago and told what was expected of us, this was followed up by an email after completion of phone call, well done Matt/Boris.
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You're not suggesting it's what Euro's family has done, obviously🤔
Seriously, I cannot imagine anyone in their right mind putting themselves in a position of being in even remote proximity to those who have symptoms and are carrying out testing unless they too have symptoms.
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Its not noble Rufs. It’s what we should expect. Right from the outset it was obvious that testing and tracing and enforcing quarantine was the recognised way forward to protect the majority. It’s didnt happen, it still hasn’t happened and frankly I for one have given up hope of ever happening. Too much money wasted, resources squandered, good will totally thrown out by those in decision making positions. We are the disgrace of Europe in terms of dealing and managing this pandemic. The death toll shows it, the case rates show it, it goes on....
You should look around you and see what is happening outside your bubble, this was the main news headline on the 25th Sept and the situation in these countries has gotten much worse
Million people back under lockdown in Spain after government extends restrictions as France sees record 16,096 coronavirus cases in a single day
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I have no idea what Euro's family did or did not do, but yes people do turn up at testing stations under false pretences, some take this risk to prove to friends/family etc before visiting that they are negative.
My OH had to have a small procedure on her left arm which meant she had to have a test before having the procedure, when we turned up at the testing station, QA's in Portsmouth, it was deserted apart from the testers, and you simply roll down the window, tester checks who you say you are, swab pushed up nose and down throat, roll up window drive off, no more dangerous than visiting Tesco's
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When out with Rosa this morning anothe dog walker ( age as me ) had been asked by her daughter if she could over night have 6 yr old overnight as her and hubby were going to have a night on the town (London)Sat into Sun (hotel booked)
And her other daughter wants her look after their dog while they go for a long weekend in Rome
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I'm struggling to see what point you're making here🤷♂️
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well you suggested that people would not turn up at a testing station unless they had symptoms has this would be putting themselves at risk, i only point out that in my experience the risks at the covid testing station are minimal, as for Euro, I have no idea how his family got tested, sorry if that is not what you were implying
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"But at least in our case track and trace is working, was contacted by the system 1 hour ago and told what was expected of us, this was followed up by an email after completion of phone call, well done Matt/Boris."
"Well done Matt/Boris"? You've got to be joking! It may well have worked in your case but according to today's news over 30% of contacts have not been traced and that's in addition to the multiple thousands who wouldn't have been traced last week because of the thousands of positive tests which went unreported. It's a total farce and no call for congratulations or back slapping whatsoever as far as I can see.
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There was another "expert" (so many round the world it seems,)on the TV this morning "advising" that as this covid 19 is only a few months old? evrty thing that is being done to try to contain it,ia "suck it and see" for all those "in charge" and for some it works. Others not , just as some think as in the UK ,our probem it seems there are multiple areas with differing types of problems in a very small highly populated country
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Lets be realistic- Until we gave a working vaccine ( and it wont be 100% effective, but will protect most), we have a collective duty to try and stop the spreading. If that is tougher measures, so be it. Dont look to trying to find anomalies and ways round, take in the spirit its meant. STAY AT HOME
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Only thing on BBC news is that certain areas of England might see pubs and restaurants close for a period, in a few days time, it’s being tossed around by the select few at the moment. No further mention of stopping overnight stays away from home........yet. I suspect this will be confined to selected areas as well. Quite how it will be enforced remains a mystery.....
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"Well done Matt/Boris"? You've got to be joking! It may well have worked in your case but according to today's news over 30% of contacts have not been traced and that's in addition to the multiple thousands who wouldn't have been traced last week because of the thousands of positive tests which went unreported. It's a total farce and no call for congratulations or back slapping whatsoever as far as I can see.
why so negative?...lets put things into perspective,
over 30% of contact have not been traced....and I can see why, you are contacted by telephone....what the stats do not tell you is how many duff telephone numbers were given for which the system has no control over, or how many people did not answer the call
addition to the multiple thousands who wouldn't have been traced last week because of the thousands of positive tests which went unreported.......due to a software glitch....Microsoft have been trying to get Windows sorted for 20 years or more and they still have software glitches, track and trace has only been with us for months
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Same here, Moulesy, we’ve a week away in the ‘van booked for next Monday, to a CMC site. Would be very nice to know before then what, if any, travel restrictions might come into force.
Crazy, isn’t it? Only a few weeks ago we were being encouraged to “eat out to help out”. Now the pubs etc are in threat of closure again. You really couldn’t make it up! 😱0
