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  • LLM
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    edited October 2020 #422

    My comment was very much tongue in cheek and possibly a little unfair as I don't read comics. 😂. Beano anyone?

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #423

    We all read what we like. I don’t know what you read but won’t try and belittle you for reading it as it is a personal choice.

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    edited October 2020 #424
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  • LLM
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    edited October 2020 #425

    Don't be so touchy.  No offense meant.  I thought you needed a sense of humour to read the Daily Mail 😃.

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #426

    Do you think if that happened now we might have a lockdown.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2020 #427

    The point I made about giving some facts and figures on the real situation was to put it in perspective. Whilst the numbers may seem very high they are not out of control. Currently debt is 85% of GDP. Another way of looking at it is that as individual you take out a mortgage often your debt ratio is between two and four times your income so looking at it like that the Government debt doesn't sound too bad.!!! 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #428

    Because as statistics as published from around the world tend to show the resultswink

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #429

    without a worldwide in countries lockdowns, the fatalities would have been far worse than the flue out break you seem to be talking about. 

    As I said how do you know this.  To know you need to do both lockdowns an none lockdowns not just statistics which can be made to show what you want.

     

     

     

     

  • brue
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    edited October 2020 #430

    David I think you might be quoting 2018 figures, I had a look at the ONS and they were quoting over 100% in August...but never mind I also read that China owes us (and a few others)  a few billion in compensation...ha ha. wink

     

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #431

    When can we call that debt in 😀

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #432

    North and south Italy for starters

  • LLM
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    edited October 2020 #433

    No problem then.  Trump and Boris will soon sort it out 👍.

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #434

    Did Italy not do a lockdown

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #435

    The north did as covid figures  went up but not before there was a big exodus South  where there was not at first a lockdown where it really took off 

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #436

    So all of Italy had a lockdown then. And I think their lockdown was before ours

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #437

    Check out what happened ,and when surprised

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #438

    I don’t need to

  • LLM
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    edited October 2020 #439

    As far as I'm aware both Italy and France locked down two to three weeks before the UK.  Since then Italy has done quite well possibly because the population is more personally and publicly controlled.  By giving up some freedoms they have gained others.  We especially in the north, could learn a lot.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #440

    expected answer

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2020 #442

    2 kids brought up by the same parents under the same rules etc ..... one is good the other isn't ..... that why you can't blame the parents

  • mylo
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    edited October 2020 #443

    Not sure but think Sweden didn’t do a lockdown does any one no there numbers if there more or les than we have

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2020 #444

    It was 2020 but only to March and obviously things have got worse since them but my substantive point remains that I don't think we are at risk of bankruptcy.

    David

    Source Office for National Statistics

  • LLM
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    edited October 2020 #445

    Lots of info here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2020 #446

    Sweden IMO is not a country we should be using as a bench mark. With a population of only 5m it is smaller than London .

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2020 #447

    I would be laying up my caravan and moving to Sardinia for a couple of months if one of mine had a holiday home there laughing

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2020 #448

    ISTM that the suggestion regarding conduct during the current pandemic is somewhat akin to the response about club sites when those who comment on shortcomings are told to "go elsewhere.

    Perhaps a more balanced view should be as summed up in the directive to "love your neighbour as yourself".

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2020 #449

    Not to be picky but I think Sweden has a population of around 10 million but I agree that it is probably not as useful comparator to the UK? The land mass is also nearly twice the size of the UK so a very low density of population compared to the UK and they like their fresh air.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2020 #450

    I think we(U.K.) have the 2nd worst per capita death rate in Europe behind Sweden☹️. I read this at least a month ago but I doubt things have moved much.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #451

    I think that is why the virus is being transmitted ,its the neighbourscool

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