Bristol Site
Hi everyone,
We wanted to keep you updated of the Club’s plan for a new site in Bristol. The Club bought a site in Clanage Road in 2016 as a replacement for the extremely popular Baltic Wharf campsite because the Club’s landlord, Bristol City Council, had been moving ahead with plans to redevelop the Western Harbour area of Bristol.
We would really like to be able to continue to offer a site in Bristol as we know many of our members love to visit Bristol and have fond memories of staying at Baltic Wharf. It will also have a great economic benefit in the local area with members visiting local attractions, shopping and eating out, as the City is easily accessible on foot and by public transport from the new proposed site. Having a Club Site will also extend the range of accommodation Bristol can offer.
We have resubmitted a planning application for a site on Clanage Road and would love it if any members can help this application by contacting Bristol City Council in support of the proposed new Club Site.
For more information on how to support a planning application visit: https://www.bristol.gov.uk/planning-and-building-regulations/comment-on-a-planning-application or alternatively you can email the Council your thoughts: development.management@bristol.gov.uk
We would be very grateful for your support in this matter and thank you in advance for your help. Support from members could well help to secure a positive outcome. In the meantime members will still be able to stay at Baltic Wharf Club Site in Bristol up until the end of the year.
We will keep you posted on developments and wish you a very happy touring season ahead.
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Yup......somehow forgot to clarify planning permission before they bought it. 😂
It would be good though to replace Baltic Wharf.
I am off now to check planning applications......
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This is the original available site at the old police horse training centre, where Bristol planning objected on grounds of flooding etc. It's in a good spot, over the road from Ashton Court Park, the Suspension Bridge is close by and the Avon foot and cycle way. About 15 mins walk from the previous site at Baltic Wharf. I would support this application as many will enjoy staying on a site in this part of Bristol, accessible from the Gordano junction on the M5.
Put Clanage into the search and use the "current" planning link.
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I have just had a look at all planing stuff, very interesting. Not sure why original application was thrown out, but hope something better comes of this second stab.
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I expect the club held out as long as possible at Baltic Wharf and this was the nearest suitable site available now looking derelict due to standing empty for too long. There are defunct buildings and grass areas on this site at present and although the first plans were rejected due to the suggestion of flooding Baltic Wharf could have the same problem yet the council have allowed planning to go through there!
I hope the next submission goes through...
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By, looking at how tight things are on there, it could be a test of reversing skills for some, and magic roundabout for others. Definitely no queuing allowed. Could be a nice City site though.
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Hopefully there will be access from the site (left hand end of magenta line) onto the foot path. It's about 1km walk to the ferry by Baltic Wharf.(right hand end of magenta line)
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Looks a better place than Baltic Wharf actually for anyone with a dog. Access via footbridge over railway onto riverside footpath?
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Would agree with all that. I lived close by for 14 years and know the location well. Not as convenient for City Centre for walkers, but Baltic Wharf was exceptional in that respect. Excellent location to visit the Balloon Fiesta in August, extensive walking at Ashton Court and a couple of decent pubs in nearby Long Ashton. Good for access from all directions. If we have to lose Baltic Wharf, this is a good replacement.
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I have supported the new application and sent an email to several of our friends who we have visited Baltic Wharf with on several occasions
I know the previos aplicatoion was rejected, on very flimsy it seems grounds last time,and hope this latest aplication on the club owned land has addressed them and it succeeds this time
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Why are pitches always set at right angles to the site roadways, why not set pitches at an angle (chevron style) makes reversing on to pitch much easier and eliminates vans being pitched opposite so not facing directly into vans opposite. Let’s experiment for future developments.
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But that's how they have always done it!
It would take more space but I detest vans directly facing each. I do always wonder if the designers have ever stayed on a site. Maybe it would be a good idea for the future if the CAMC loaned their designers a van for a week and sited it so they could see the good and bad points.
Have you seen how short a distance the proposed roadway projects beyond pitch 9?- not even enough room to unhitch the van from the car before manoeuvering into position.
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A poky little triangle, with as many pitches as could be squeezed in, but no amenities other than the standard toilet block. Is this the best this Club can do ?
Have they considered what they will do when Bristol city council bans diesel vehicles on environmental grounds and this little patch becomes inaccessible? Have they thought of sites close to public transport further out?
Have they looked at city sites in other countries- like Amsterdam, Strasbourg , Lyon and Nantes to see how other cities do it?
This looks hopeless to me.
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Don’t think it’s located in the ban zone, but maybe the pay zone if not Euro 6 compliant?
I only have experience of one of the sites you highlight - Strasbourg. Nice site, but was a bit of a crime hot spot, next pitch had car broken into overnight and cash/cards nicked and some lowlife cut the chains securing bikes on the back of a German van. Security should a big consideration these days when planning a new site.
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If Bristol City council were a bit more helpfull? as it seems other countries are towards tourists
, The original idea was to have a new site in Ashton court park but there was (so i understand) Nimby complaints that the city was "reluctant?" to ignore(i wonder who lived near?)
When the old police training school was put on the market the club bought it as was not likely to have opposition from the area
The first planning application was rejected ,so i would think the latest aplication h as been submited and updated to take in the original rejection reasons
As Rowena states if the application gets positive support from any one including those who want and have visited Bristol it may help
There was it seems a lot of opposed letters to The city council ,when Baltic Wharf was first advised of closure (to build in the councils words a ""much needed primary school?"
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A poky little triangle, with as many pitches as could be squeezed in, but no amenities other than the standard toilet block
When the 4 grass pitches are in use, they will certainly have squeezed in as many pitches as possible.
The fact that it is a non awning site will certainly upset some.
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It’s characteristic of many city sites found in Europe now. Space is always at a premium in urban locations so what you get by necessity is an ‘aire’ type situation. Strasbourg has already been mentioned, you could include Lisbon, Bilbao, Bruges & Florence etc, all similar. Probably best suited to motorhome stopovers, rather than putting up the awning for a week or so. We’re lucky with Crystal Palace, Abbey Wood, York etc, but they’re far from typical these days.
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It is very true what you have posted as far as city sites are concerned Rowntree park is not "roomy"
,Also as most know the price of the ground they are on is also at a premium compared to most othe places
Lets just hope this time the city council planning dept are less blinkered ,when looking at the application, and also realise the value that LV visitors bring
And as Rowena has posted the more supprt the application gets the better it is ,, folllowing the link was easy to find the application
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Beat me to it SB although I was going to suggest if the application failed the Club resubmitted an application for an aire.
I've looked at most of the planning documents and the responses, the latter mainly seem to be made by jobsworth who have to justify their existence. Neighbours are at the very least neutral to supportive and the Club has plenty of experience of dealing with sites that flood. Nobody has drowned yet, perhpas that could be emphasised a bit more..
My one concern is the objections from the Transport Development body about the sightings for entry and exit from the site. It is a busy main road and they don't accept the Club's viewpoint. Seems to me an independant viewpoint on that one is required. Think I would be a little concerned about it as well without actually standing at the entrance and making a judgement. 142 meters visibility doesn't seem enough on a road where the majority of traffic is noted as speeding, otherwise looks a very good location for access to Bristol.
I hope the Club is sucessful.
peedee
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I would like to support it.
Has anyone read through the comments procedure to see if Emailing a comment is different to an online comment, in as much as not having your full name and address open to public view?
I have but still unclear if Emailing to: development.management@bristol.gov.uk is the better option for privacy.
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What other facilities would you want ET? Swimming pool,, 10 pin bowling, restaurant? All those things you have likely said you do not want or need in other posts?
I think the great thing about BW was the location right in town so I guess they are trying to replicate the same so once on site people do not need to use transport to get into town and can walk or cycle?
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When we were at Baltic wharf last ,we walked to where the training college had been ,and do not remeber the road to be "busy",although some vehicles were not "hanging about" a speed camera could assist with that
,An aire? would that make any diference?
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