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Yes by replying online with a 'Public Comment', your full name and address is shown on the view-able document. Reading the privacy terms says it is required by law to publish your details.
Emailing may be the better option if taken into consideration but not published online.
EDIT: Just read through the Privacy notice again, even if you Email it will be added to the site with all personal details, minus Email address and phone number.
Sorry CAMC, no can do.
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It will be what it will be. I think of it as being another YRP. Just somewhere to ditch the MH, not particularly pretty, isn’t going to be quiet (with a road on one side and a railway line on the other.)
But it will give the opportunity to stay in a City at a budget price, far cheaper than any Travelodge or PI.
Note to Club.......please consider tarmac pitches rather than that ghastly stuff underwheel, foot and paw at YRP. Or at least something nicer that will withstand any flooding. Office and loos up on stilts of course😂
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In my travels I have seen Aires in city centres - with no resident staff, automated entry with a bank card and that way for power and water too, but no other facilities.
Then there are Campsites at city outskirts - with multi lingual receptionists, tourist information desks, bike hire, coffee and pastries at breakfast, and public transport at the gate.
The proposal for Bristol seems to be neither one or the other, but just an ill judged attempt at compromise.
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But as you should know most who use sites in the UK do not want that sort of place to stay
Do not know how public transport is a problem in the UK with close to city centre sites
An aire in a UK city centre would be well under used by UK Owners as it would be too expensive
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Then there are Campsites at city outskirts - with multi lingual receptionists, tourist information desks, bike hire, coffee and pastries at breakfast, and public transport at the gate.
Not sure about the coffee and pastries ( can't remember) but all the rest (and lots of greenery) can be found at the Nantes site.
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I think the proposed site would best suit the former, but it would be a bold move for the Club to take. If it preserves a facility within the city, it’s much better than nothing. However, fully automated sites can be problematic if the technology has a bad day and they seem to turn some folks brains to mush.
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I think the concept good. If used as Baltic Wharf, the site itself is not the destination, just somewhere to park your caravan or Motorhome to visit the town and surrounding area.
Its position whilst convient for the city is clearly not as good as BW. Where you can just go through the gate and sit on the harbour side with a pint. Buses do run reasonably frequently along Clanage road and go to the centre and bus station. For access to Ashton Court it is much better. My main reservation would be walking back to the site in the darker months. We often did this at BW rather than catch the bus or ferry but I wouldn't feel particularly safe in the area under the bridge / flyover.
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The proposal for Bristol seems to be neither one or the other, but just an ill judged attempt at compromise.
It is a similar concept to BW which is very, very, popular. I think the new site if it gets through planning is likely to be the same. I'm not sure that is ill judged.
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The unused railway line at the back of the site is earmarked for a re-connection to Portishead on the coast. I think there is a station planned at Pill, further along the Avon. I presume there will be other stops and maybe easy city access and no doubt eco friendly? The big drawback is going to be the ban on diesel vehicles. I support the site plan but I think this is going to be a difficult application. I don't want my personal details in the comments section (our local planning is the same but locally we all know each other anyway.) So because I'm a contributor to CT I can only back the application on here to keep my other details reasonably private.
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It would be interesting to know how often the site has flooded, as I believe that was one reason for rejecting it last time. I suppose a flooding event is a bit more difficult to predict than at York or Tewkesbury, where the flood pulses can be tracked as they move down stream. At Bristol it is both a function of river levels and very high spring tides, the combined levels of which are perhaps more difficult to predict. You don't really want to be evacuating every 12 hours.
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Yes, more-or-less the same risk. I crossed the Cumberland Basin most days from 1997 to 2010 and don’t recall anything other than fairly minor localised flooding on exceptional spring tides which are obviously predictable.
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I suppose it will depend on the relative levels of the two sites. I don't remember BW ever flooding. That pub down by the basin lock gates has got wet occasionally and the water level was into that cross street from the swing bridge one year.
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But is it a proper one or an awkward to access manhole cover?
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Just done a calcualtion regarding how long it would take a vehicle coming round the corner to reach the entrance. At 30 m.ph. 18 secs, at 40 m.p.h 8 secs. In the opposite direction the time for a sighted vehicle at 120m away to reach the entrance is even less, at 30 m.p.h 15 secs and at 40 m.p.h 6.5 secs For safety, and for application approval, it would appear to me some kind of traffic calming measures would need to be put in place. Hope my calculations are wrong!
peedee
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just an after thought, perhaps stopping distances are more relevent. At 40 m.p.h its 40 yards so in theory the majority of vehicles should be able to stop for anyone exiting the site. I have always found rumble strips very effective at slowing myself down.
peedee
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As I understand it, the plans to ban diesel vehicles from the inner city will come into effect in 2021. The ban is supposed to last from 7.00am until 3.00pm.
So how will departure from site will managed in this time scale? Stay until 3.00pm, no arrivals until 4.00pm? No using the vehicle to leave the site during most of the day?
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It looks as though the proposed site sits just outside the zone, although leaving heading South might just take you in then out of the medium zone🤔 Not sure if I am looking at a map that has been agreed upon though.....
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Hope my calculations are wrong!
They are! No idea of the distances you are using (around 240 metres?) but at 40 instead of 30 it will take 3 quarters of the time.
As an ex highway engineer:
For a junction onto a 30mph limit the required visibility distance is 43m (y distance) from a point 2.4m behind the edge of carriageway measured down the access. This will define the needed visibility splay etc. Double white line systems make splays less onerous to the left on exit. At 40mph the y distance is 120m.
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From my understanding it is not in the red Zone, nor the Clean Air zone, and privately owned diesels are not charged for entering the Clean Air zone which gives more access/exit routes from the East and South other than the main access/exit route from the Gordano turn off....... unless they change it again.
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