Corona Virus Concerns

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  • KjellNN
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    edited June 2020 #3153

    I think it is very variable.

    DD and family, and DS and family are sticking to the rules, have hardly been out.  But DS's FIL has started visiting them, more than a 5 mile drive, and wants to come in the house, but has not been allowed further than the back door.

    The other in-laws are not sticking to some of the rules re numbers meeting up

    We are pretty much sticking to the rules but are going out once a week for shopping, I drive, OH shops.  In the shops she has found it is mainly the 15-40 year olds who are not bothering about keeping 2m apart.  But there are also a few very elderly who seem to have no idea there is a pandemic and are carrying on as usual.

    Outside, we have large groups of teenagers gathering and roaming the shopping precinct.

    On TV we see mainly young people and families out on beaches and in parks, but also elderly neighbours gathering at less than 2 m for a good chat.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #3154

    Oh dear wink wrong part of the country thensurprised

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited June 2020 #3155

    “after the weekend of marches the amount of trouble in London and Bristol they city's must be locked down if the virus rate goes up there and keep them there the police is to soft where is this no more than six people to be in one meeting”

    Do you honestly think if the police tell these mobs to go home they will just disperse and go home

  • no one
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    edited June 2020 #3156

    Mr Hancock said today that the overall average of the R rate is less than one so there is no issues and the easing will carry on.

    So obviously the Southwest and North West are not important in the grand scheme of things,

    we will suffer while the rest of the country crack on.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #3157

    Mmm, funny how it’s changed since yesterday. Still, if the Govt says so, it must be right😳

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2020 #3158

    If the figures revealed today of the deaths are true, and no reason to believe otherwise perhaps we are getting on top of this disease. This despite the stupid action of some. As for the protests they were as we so often see taken over by the rent a mob and anarchist, looking for trouble. Lets hope the selfish actions wont put back the progress made and all of us can begin to get back to a normal life. Myself it seems my enforced lockdown is to be extended to August 18.Awating the letter from WAG.

  • cabbiemick
    cabbiemick Forum Participant Posts: 297
    edited June 2020 #3159

     this is my first reply on the marches i drive round london all day and have been a cabbie for 34 years and i can tell anyone i have seen alot of demonstrations from poll tax , stop the war ,brexit but i have never seen such a peaceful march and the sorry on so many people faces you will always get idiots who are out to cause trouble it suits a lot of people in hgh places to call them a mob or thugs but i can tell you the majority on the march was good honest people on my way home from work yesterday in the pouring rain i saw a young girl on her own standing in the middle of the central resavation with a own made sandwich board with black lives matters on it so untill we have walked a mile in there shoes let stop atacking good honest peolple

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2020 #3160

    Unfortunately my approaching senility means I can't recall what I posted now. Clearly it seems to have caused umbrage somewhere.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3161

    Apparently different models can be used to determine the R number. You just use whichever model suits your purpose. I wouldn't trust any of them personally.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #3162

    A view from on the spot. Thanks, CM.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3163

    Yes, good honest people probably spreading the virus and breaking the coronavirus rules.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #3164

    Just watching Channel 4 news. Report from rain forest in Brazil. Reporter says it’s easier and faster to get a C19 Test there, than to get one in UK.🤷‍♀️Indigenous communities looking after themselves, self isolating as families, caring for each other. Very interesting report.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3165

    I don't think it would work here, trying to follow that lifestyle would be almost impossible.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #3166

    Yeah, things are way too selfish and materialistic here😁 Interesting that they use modern medicine alongside herbal remedies. Village nurse was fully trained, and they had a well stocked village clinic. Small community, I don’t think they had any deaths. These are the folks Bolsanaro doesn’t care about, happy to let progress wipe out their lives.  I found it interesting.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3167

    I quite agree, plus families tend to be spread all over the country, if not the world these days. If we all lived like the rain forest communities, there wouldn't be any need for care homes.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2020 #3168

     What he stated was that all areas were below 1, including the NW and SE, so please get the facts right and don't twist words to suit your agenda. It was only the statement by one small group of scientist who said that he thought that those areas were above 1.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2020 #3169

    I see that Brazil are not going to publish the total number of their cases daily....,I wonder why!!

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #3170

    So you are saying that he was ignoring this "small?"group of scientists,undecided as it did not it seems fit in with the spinsurprised

    The Cummings effect is still there frown

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2020 #3171

    No what I am saying is that majority of information that he has received shows that the R rate is les than 1 in every region of the country. There are always those that hold a different view. You only have to look on here to see that!wink

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2020 #3172

    Brazil? Nut, bush 💩ty limits! 

  • Pliers
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    edited June 2020 #3173

    Who knows?

    As with you. Nellie,  we live in NW England, but it’s a huge area. Is the “R rate “ the same in Liverpool, Manchester, Preston, Clitheroe ,  Roughlee, Stockport, Workington, Windermere, Penrith etc...

    Maybe, but maybe not. Need testing, testing, testing...

    🙂

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #3174

    I thought what he said was that when considering all the models the R was less than 1. An individual model may well show an R of 1 but when they are all considered and a mean calculated the R values were as he stated.

  • cabbiemick
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    edited June 2020 #3175

    who can beleave a word thease clowns say weather the r rate kids going back to school care homes mr cummings as anyone noticed that no scentist have been at press meetings ( maybe its time to blame scentist for the disatorous the way they have done and black lives matter for 2nd spike ) the sad thing is a lot of people will agree with the clowns 

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3176

    There is no doubt in my mind that " the clowns " as you put it are trying to do what they believe is in the best interests of the country. They have said from the outset that they have been led by the science. If that is true, then it is clear, in hindsight, that they have on occasions been led by the wrong scientists. The problem is, almost every different scientist you listen to has a different opinion. In the end the politicians still have to make a decision, and there is no doubt they have made the wrong decision at times, but what annoys me is they will never admit to making the wrong decision. I think the general public would respect them a lot more if they did. Nobody is perfect.

  • cabbiemick
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    edited June 2020 #3177

    as i said compo motorhomer always some people who belive in clowns always someomes elses fault there cant be anyone who belives the clowns are doing a good job

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3178

    The next big decision they have to make is how quickly to ease the partial lockdown we still have. Only time will tell if they get that right. Hopefully they will. 

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #3179

    Personally I think that the government should have closed our borders early and insisted on returners quarantining for a period. 

    We have scientists saying lockdown should have started earlier but given the the growing level of public protest after 7 weeks maybe not. 

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #3180

    Very true. They are all difficult decisions to make. I'm glad it's not me having to make them.

  • rovinmad
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    edited June 2020 #3181

    This is just offensive rubbish.