Corona Virus Concerns

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2020 #2942

    They are the same as the rest of us, they have feelings, they care, they have family, they are of us. Having robotic ‘professionals’ who can only act on orders takes away from the British policeman, they face up to everything thrown at them stoically, they also have brains. It took decades to get where we & they are today. It would be a sad day when they stared forward in that robotic way without feelings or a Human caring nature. We very rarely have what we witness today in America & that is down to our attitude to our Police service & moreover their attitude to us.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #2943

    Are the police not there to keep the peace and is it not more likely they will achieve that by getting the demonstrators on side? I’m all for the police using whatever legal and peaceable means they can in order to instil order.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #2944

    I agree that it is best to keep the demonstrators on side so as to keep the peace, but I'm not sure that stretches to having to carry out all that they demand. Next, they will be carrying their banners for them, including the ones with ACAB written on them. As already said, better that they remain neutral.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #2945

    I don’t think anyone is suggesting those wild extremes, Compo. Let’s be a bit realistic!🤣🤣

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #2946

    I agree. It was a bit extreme.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #2947

    🤣🤣🤣

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #2948

    Thanks for that Rocky, being in icu is bad enough. He went down with a sickening thump. Hope he makes a full recovery.

  • MikeyA
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    edited June 2020 #2949

    Just a general statement but she did mention ( maybe official government advice) that the UK is seen as a dangerous place to visit at this time.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2020 #2950

    I am not persuaded. The police have to act in a professional and neutral way when they are on duty , they are not there to show their feelings!  No objection to them using a light touch to handle things. What they should not do is give the impression they are supporting the cause they are policing. There will be many within the crowd of demonstrators who will view such things with irony!!! It is not that the cause may be just but more about being neutral whilst on duty. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #2951

    I don’t think our police do too bad a job overall, and at times they do have a lot to deal with. However, occasionally the neutrality is questionable. It can be influenced by those who are in senior positions, and indeed by the prevailing political view at the time. Hence the inquires about Policing that occasionally arise. 

     

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2952

    well this was in all the news reports

    EMILY MAITLIS risked another BBC impartiality row after she appeared to take a swipe at Boris Johnson over the coronavirus crisis.

     

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  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2954

    bet she didnt mention any of this

    quote

    Some patients have been transferred to Germany to free up beds and the Ahoy Rotterdam concert hall, which was supposed to host Eurovision 2020, is to become an emergency facility.

    There are plans to quadruple the number of tests and healthcare workers not directly involved in treating coronavirus patients will also be screened.

    But there have been setbacks too.

    When a million masks shipped in from China were deemed faulty, the government had to order an urgent recall.

    unquote from a BBC news report, and not unlike the situation in the UK at the time, and we should note that they have a population of just 17 million undecided

    and it would seem the Netherlands have a travel ban similar to that of the UK's which is in force until the 15th June, which applies to most countries throught the world. I sometimes wonder about the validity of  phone ins on the radio. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2020 #2955

    I’m not trying to persuade you DK, I accept you are of the old guard who thinks the world was better back then. Luckily the Police service has moved on from the ‘miners strike’ attitude to Policing. That mindset was disgraceful then as it is now. We have a Police service that is as good as it gets👍🏻.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2020 #2956

    I subscribe to CNN news network on Youtube(free) its very eye opening re the reporters candour on air👍🏻

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #2957

    Not the BBC news I suspect

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #2958

    It will be the same as her last comments,  the snowflakes will complain .but she will get the backing with a much bigger majority of those who agree with hersurprised 

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2959

    Indeed, however, i think the BBC have now got a new director general so maybe we will get more unbiased reporting.

    Pity Emily lets her political views overshadow some of her other important work, for which she has rightly been nominated for awards, I thought her Prince Andrew interview was 1st class.

    But alas this Corvid-19 is overshadowing all of our lives, and there is going to be another outcry.

    For months the government have been down playing the use of face masks, and after watching Mr Hancock tonight there now seems to be something of a U turn, but as i have said before, for all of us this is still a learning curve,

    I did notice that in Australia they have made mass demonstrations illegal, whereas tonight  Mr Hancock has only asked that people do not mass protest and ignore all the rules, not sure his request is going to be heeded, could this weekend be Cheltenham mark 2 ?.

     

  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #2960

    So today the South West R rate is 1. Less than two weeks ago it was 0.75. But this was before everyone was allowed to travel as far as they wanted and so many people flocked here. The North West 1.1 375 deaths today, it's not getting much better. Maybe a mileage travel restriction as some people initially suggested. IMO too much too soon.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #2961

    It was made to appear not of any great significance in today's briefing but I fear it is the thin end of the wedge. 🙁

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2962

    I agree, and although we are not suffering as much as you, the number of campervans etc in our area that are trying to park up by the roadside, in carparks, not just overnight but for 2-3 days is beyond a joke, fortunately the weather has turned cooler so hopefully this will deter some undecided

  • no one
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    edited June 2020 #2963

    As we all feared,

    when i visited my workplace I jokingly remarked I was going back into isolation for another 3 months.....maybe it's not a joke anymorefrown

  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #2964

    We could all see this coming, why couldn't the Government? Not keen on the Scotish lady, but I think she has the travel limitations right. 

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #2965

    Debs - you may remember that I suggested at the time a distance limit, say, within one's county of residence or 50 mile radius of home, would be more appropriate than unlimited travel within England. I was shot down in flames by one or two at the time but the emerging news only convinces me even more that the decision to travel "as far as you like" was ill thought out.  frown

  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #2966

    Seriously don't get it. Almost everyone said the Cheltenham Festival shouldn't take place. Same with the Liverpool football match. The people I feel sorry for are the people who had to work in these places. Everyone in the South West was appalled that day trippers, and more, would be allowed to flock here with no mileage restrictions. This wasn't hindsight, we said it at the time. We are just Joe Bloggs, why oh why has this been allowed to happen, it was so obvious.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #2967

    I am going to send an text to our neigbours advising them to quarantine themselves when they return from Cornwall on Sunday?where they have been for two weeks trying to sort out the problems his mother has had with her care packagesurprised

    And they do not need to bring any pasties back for us which she normally doesfrown

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #2968

    Looking at the local news I agree with the reports that it could be a blip due to the discoveries of Covid at Weston General amongst staff and patients plus the fact that some staff also worked in the community. I presume all have been traced and tested? 

  • John Snowball
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    edited June 2020 #2969

    Just watching BBC local news in Manchester on the increase in R. Experts are saying that it is due to a lack of testing in the community and based on hospitals and care homes. Don’t know about the SW.

    Wind and waves look good this weekend for the North Cornish coast, so guess another influx of surfers.

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #2970

    Having tried to get a test myself and failed I don't have much confidence in the system. Just hoping that those at the forefront, hospitals, care homes etc  are all able to get tests when needed? 

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #2971

    Why wouldn't they give you one brue.?