Corona Virus Concerns

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  • Rufs
    Rufs Club Member Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited June 2020 #2972

    Well Brendan Rogers manager of Leicester FC was having 3 tests per week undecidedmaybe you are not greasing the right palms

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2973

    and after looking at the news report re the BLM marches in Reading today, i think people have forgotten what corvid-19 is and the consequencies if you catch it.

    Australia banned by law such marches, Matt Hancock tonight pleaded for common sense to prevail, sorry Matt falling on deaf ears, consult with Mr Trump and bring out the army 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #2974

    You need to jog on into Dorset Rufs. They are recruiting beach Marshall’s to keep things under control. 

  • MikeyA
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    edited June 2020 #2975

    Beach marshal's are OK to interact with those who will listen to advice but I'm afraid it will take the police to "interact" with those who won't.

     

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited June 2020 #2976

    Like most would do I applied on line and checked via 111 where the symptoms registered as "request a test." I was given a code number, the same one every time I applied. Some times the web site said tests are available, some times not. The response was also "even if your application is accepted you may not get a test." I also tried to get a drive through centre test, the sites were a good distance from my home and I didn't feel well enough to travel at that point. I had a code to proceed but the web site suggests a home test if drive through tests are a long distance away. 

    So it's not a case of "why wouldn't they give you one" more that they appear to be unavailable. It is suggested you get a test within five days of symptoms. I've reached five days now, I'm avoiding contacts. The test wouldn't have cured me but I though it was a sensible idea to try and get one.

    I have not been out anywhere near the general public so it's a mystery how I've got some sort of bug?!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #2977

    You know that, I know that, Dorset might just be on a learning curve......👍

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited June 2020 #2978

    Edit. I have just watched a horrific video of policing in New York last night. A 75 year old white man pushed to the ground and falling backwards. No idea how badly injured he is, but the police officer has been suspended. Even the police line stopped in horror at what happened. Simply dreadful. I do hope the man is ok. It’s on the Guardian website, but probably elsewhere as well.

    What I saw was the guy lying on the ground, after being shove by the policeman, and he was bleeding from the head, as you could see the blood pooling. The front few lines of police didn't in fact stop but walked past him towards an other protester, and it wasn't until a guy in combat uniform came up that anyone stopped to examine the poor old guy.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #2979

    Sorry , I shouldn't have asked but I thought they might have said there was none available when The government have been saying there was loads of spare capacity. I hope everything goes well for you.

  • Fisherman
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    edited June 2020 #2980

    Latest news here is that those of us in the vulnerable/shielding category have to remain isolated until August 18th, We will retain priority supermarket slots and are expected to get neighbours to collect prescriptions etc. Reading some of the above comments perhaps its a good thing. I know every blade of grass on my holding.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2020 #2981

    You clearly have not watched the programme but taken your news from the Sun which itself is hardly an independent source of reliable News!!! 

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #2982

    Have you watched the BBC lately? I don't watch TV but do occasionally watch some of the BBC interviewers. 

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2983

    Interestingly i did watch the programme, and thought the Sun and the Daily Mail reported quite accurately what was said, the headlines read

    "She's at is again! Maitlis Sparks new outcry over Newsnight Bias"

    she was in fact trying to take BJ to task re excess deaths from the virus, which was in reference to what BJ said at PMQ's earlier in the day/.

  • Pliers
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    edited June 2020 #2984

    Sorry, Rufs, but are you really suggesting that our government should “consult with Mr Trump and bring out  the army “ ?

    Will say no more. 😱

  • no one
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    edited June 2020 #2985

    Its not just Marshals on the beach, after the terrible behaviour of those that visited the Dorset coast last weekend the council for Purbeck have  'advised' the estate of Lulworth to get their act together, allowing visitors down closed roads (roads were closed by the council for safety)because your car parks are open is not good enough.

    You will have to book a slot online to visit Lulworth or Durdle Door, I think this will be for a parking space, in advance not having a  booking will mean being turned away, cars parked illegally Will be towed and the highway act enforced by the police. (why didn't they do that in the first place?). other small beaches along the Jurrasic coast have been tightly controlled by road closures and ticketing anyway.

    The military do not do policing it will be a sad and dangerous day if it came to that, support of national effort and services working in the background etc. brilliant ……….......Frontline policing NEVER

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2020 #2986

    B2 wrote "Hopefully churches, let's face it these days social distancing should be easiest there 😉 in large churches with miniscule congregations."

    Trickier when you have large congregations and smallish churches. We normally have three services on a Sunday morning with varying degrees of congestion. A couple of online services isn't quite the same though.

  • Bakers2
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    edited June 2020 #2987

    Sorry CY generalisation again embarassed

    It's good to know that it isn't always declining congregations 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #2989

    even more so as it is acknowledged that the Bame community is at higher risk of catching the virusundecided

  • InaD
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    edited June 2020 #2990

    Yes, having seen pictures on the news of these gatherings, I wondered whether these past 2-3 months have been a waste of time, trying to contain the virus.  Apparently there were around 15000 protesters in Manchester, Piccadilly Gardens.  The Northwest's R rate is now just above 1.  Are we going to see a regional lockdown?

  • Bakers2
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    edited June 2020 #2991

    Not seen the news, or read other than headlines.

    Have to agree InaD we may have been confined to barracks for weeks, day 80 here, for any benefits to have been lost with the easing causing madness at the beaches and beauty spots and now the protests 😢😢. I don't just fear regional lockdown I fear national, well England at least, again. I caught a bit about Blackpool requesting no visitors as their R remains over 1 🤐. No idea what will happen to the economy if it does.

    Daughter in NZ reckons they'll be level 1 come Tuesday she said they had been 14 days with no new cases and last infected person recovered. So jealous, but so relieved that they should be safe 😀

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2020 #2992

    So, it looks like 10 weeks of lockdown will be blown out the water, after seeing all these people protesting, there’s a time and place and it’s not now ! 

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #2993

    Totally agree. It only being permitted because trying to stop it would cause an uproar. If 12 friends try having a party in the park ( I agree equally unacceptable) they would probably be fined. Or at least to disperse and go home.

  • Pliers
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    edited June 2020 #2994

    Can only hope that because the protests were outside, the infection rate might not be as high as in indoor meetings .

    Just wonder if our government are quite happy to allow these large gatherings to take place, in order to go back to plan A,  “ herd immunity “ , through the back door.

    Hope not. 
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  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #2995

    It looked like plain brutality. But of course we did not see if anything happened prior to that. That is the trouble with some video clips

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2020 #2996

    Pliers wrote: "Just wonder if our government are quite happy to allow these large gatherings to take place, in order to go back to plan A, “ herd immunity “ , through the back door."

    Herd of lemmings IMHO. The recent statistics haven't been particularly encouraging with only minimal progress being made. This is likely to set us back considerably.

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #2997

    Yup, and all because this time, of a man called George Floyd, who should not have died the way he did, but the guy was a carreer criminal, and now because of the protests, with no social distancing, we will probably have an upsurge in covid-19 cases particularly within the BAME group, and when that happens, we all know what happens.

  • Compo
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    edited June 2020 #2998

    The country which is normally quoted when discussing herd immunity is Sweden. Architect of their "herd immunity" model is epidemiologist Anders Tegnell who has now said that in hindsight, the best strategy might have been " Something between what Sweden has done and what the rest of the world has done." I believe that the government may well be following that type of strategy in bringing us out of lockdown gradually, ( what some people suggest is too early). I certainly don't believe that the government are happy to allow large gatherings to take place to follow "herd immunity". Sadly, I don't think they could have stopped them even if they had tried.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #2999

    It proved yesterday that the chances of "controlling" of even banning the demonstrations would not work when especially London, it was a foregone conclusion,that it was going to turn into a them and us confrontation   with those who were just there to course trouble knowing that in this country our police normally try the "conjoll" aproach   rather than the heavy handed attitude as seen with the armed police in other countries  

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #3000

    I think we call it "rent a mob' and when watching the 2200 hrs news i see a terrified horse bolting down Whitehall, then i sometimes think we should bring in the "heavy mob", yes it would be against our Human rights as a democratic country etc, but it may be the only way to control these protest and masses on the beaches, and get on top of this virus,

    it wouldnt be the first time we have thrown a ring of steel around some of our more vunerable areas. If you go back 50 years you had to be 6ft+ and built like Henry Cooper to join the police force and you run the risk of getting a smack in your face, not a knife in your belly as is likely now.

  • Rufs
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    edited June 2020 #3001

    Quite, and if you look carefully he does seem to prod one of the policeman with his hand/mobile, and he was a big lad, 6ft+ i would say, and although he was of the older generation he did seem to go down very easily.