Corona Virus Concerns
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Spain had 50 today, Nellie.
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We have had 3 Tesco deliveries and I am disgusted with the amount of plastic bags. Several bags with 1 item and sometimes that item in a bag before the carrier! 😤😤
Having an OH in the extremely vunerable group I put them straight out for recycling, allegedly safe to do so??
I feel that all the good I have done for years, long before charges for bags - I've always taken my own, 1 bag older than my daughter mother of 2 😱! Has been undone through no fault of my own. Since Tesco have a limit of 80 items per shop it cant be big order/time pressure. I will be writing in due course.
I love the idea of paper bags but I need to do more reading up because I've noticed some say it takes more resources etc to make paper 🤔😯.
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The paper is at least recyclable. We've got too many plastic bags because we're also getting things for our neighbours which we repack for them. At present everything collected locally is going to landfill not recycling. That sounds odd but I think the glass etc is OK.
Our spare ones might come in handy for a plant sale next year or similar. Just hoping the bag mountain decreases soon! 1 -
Yes I believe they did. After all it is food for others 🤢🤮. The terminology is stick it and flick it 😀. Got to be better than leaving it or hanging bags from branches.
Personally I cannot see the point of hanging bags, carry it with you. There's no guarantee you'll walk back that way and only encourages or gives ideas to others!
Yes on the odd ocassion I've ventured out on foot since lockdown I've been disgusted with dog poo heaps on the pavements. A neighbour opposite went out for about 30 minutes for a run, on her return 2 heaps on her drive by the front door - this mid morning 🤬
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Spotted that BB. I did say that yesterday's figure might just have been a correction.
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Brue I agree regarding recycling paper and alledgedly plastic can be recycled. At least the paper deteriorates into a harmless substance if it isn't recycled and doesn't pollute the land or living organisms. So for me it will be paper!
I thought it was odd about recycling plastics and I am as it's better as far as I'm concerned than landfill. Our plastics are collected separately, I believe I've said before we need a degree and lots of recipicoles and space here for our waste 😱 7 different containers!, and there will be a long delay collection every other week, before processing.
Only upside of non reusable bags it's less to clean, early on I was cleaning bags inside outside and handles as well as shopping.
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We have been using the Click & Collect and have found the same issue: lots of plastic bags. I used to have lots of them years ago and always used them as bin liners. Then started using my own bags, so ran out and actually had to buy bin liners! Now back to using plastic bags again as bin liners. They'll last me for a long, long time at the rate I'm getting them now, and we don't order anything like 80 items each week, more like about 30-ish!
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But! Without knowing how the goods are picked it is difficult to say definitively whether they are using too many plastic bags? For example we all probably assume that one person goes round picking the order which might not be the case. The order might be picked by different people at different times so more bags are used to avoid double handling in trying to keep customers safe. Also chilled and frozen items will be packed separately as they are usually keep in different parts of the delivery van. There is also the need for the driver to be able to deliver your order to your door in manageable amounts. I really don't think there is any cause to complain at the present time if we want the system to work and the maximum number of people to be able to get deliveries?
As for paper bags these are not always the most ecological choice as they more costly, in resources, to make in the first place apparently. It is probably the case that supermarkets are using what they have at hand without the option of having to go back into the market place to source new bags.
David
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It just goes to show these fads were are subjected to are only imposed to make us feel guilty and tax us until something more 'important' comes along. Bag your dog poo, use supermarket bags for life, bring your own coffee mug (which nobody, but nobody accepts now). Its all a nonsense designed to make us jump through hoops for life.
However, as a dog owner who does pick-up-a-poo, I find that hanging the loaded bags on fences or trees or throwing them away to be utterly obscene. Leave the poo entirely or remove it sensibly.
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At the Tesco concerned, and I believe all Tesco's, they are picked by the same person. They have an electronic list and a cart with those supermarket trays in them. They go round the store doing each order in full.
I mention the gay abandon use of plastic bags as wasteful, but don't have a better plan - not my job to think of one either 🤣. But in relation to the environment, the tax levy for buying a supermarket plastic bag etc etc. Seems supermarket deliveries continued to use the cheaper supermarket bags, then we had bags for life now same quality as bags for life but no logo. That suggests to me MUCH USAGE and quickest way to replenish stock??
Everything environmental lip service??? 😤😢🤔😱🤬😡 Yes I know exceptional times etc, but ............. No idea how you make bags, gloves, acetate, perspex etc even if the same ingredients but the latter are for more urgent use than bags??
I'll say no more about it. Stay safe.
Ps I did have a Tesco job for Christmas years ago, ended staying for 4 years as it suited my family commitments at the time - especially as so many staff any childcare illness etc meant no guilt for me as my choice would always be kids first 😉. So I do know how things work from the inside too 🤐
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Oh I so agree with your last paragraph.
Mind you folk are not averse to dumping full nappies anywhere 😤😤. We had a local fb post, neighbourhood watch, with a photo 😯, where someone had changed and emptied a colostomy bag by their back gate alledgedly!! 🤢🤮🤢. I didn't examine the photo too closely 🤣
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We have a lot of older friends who have deliveries and have had them prior to the Covid19. Previously there shopping came in trays and the delivery man would usually bring it to a kitchen worktop and even help empty the tray for speed. In the present situation the shopping is usually placed outside the entry door in bags with the driver maintaining distance. Some drivers will lift the bags over the threshold if the householder steps well away. A number of our friends would struggle with full bags. No idea which supermarkets they use but if the goods were in trays on the floor then the driver would have a long wait for the tray.
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We too have elderly friends who have had deliveries for a few years now, using both Tesco and Sainsburys. The delivery man always carried the shopping into the kitchen and helped to empty the shopping, having a chat while he did it, then picked up the empty trays and left.
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>This article< puts it all into perspective.
peedee
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"However, as a dog owner who does pick-up-a-poo, I find that hanging the loaded bags on fences or trees or throwing them away to be utterly obscene. Leave the poo entirely or remove it sensibly. "
Agreed, as a former dog owner who used to pick-up-a-poo, and as a periodic dog walker who does now, I find that hanging the loaded bags on fences or trees or throwing them away to be utterly obscene. Leave the poo entirely or remove it sensibly.
just one of the most disgusting sights in the countryside.
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I think all supermarkets pretty much say, on their websites, they will exercise no contact social distancing whilst delivering shopping which means the will drop bags at the front door asking the householder to give sufficient distance. I am not sure if there are any different arrangements for say somebody in a wheelchair? They won't even take back any goods so if you don't like the substitutions they leave them with you but don't charge you for them. I can only speak for Waitrose but you do get advance warning of any substitutions the morning of delivery. As far as bags are concerned we do pay a small surcharge for them of .40p a delivery which sort of equates to what you would pay in store. I am just grateful that we have managed to get regular home deliveries.
David
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I think all supermarkets pretty much say, on their websites, they will exercise no contact social distancing whilst delivering shopping which means the will drop bags at the front door asking the householder to give sufficient distance. I am not sure if there are any different arrangements for say somebody in a wheelchair?
One of our friends in her mid eighties has been fortunate in having the delivery driver come in. She has opened the back door wide and retreated into her hallway and he has carried the tray into the kitchen without touching the door or surfaces, placed the tray on the kitchen worktop and unloaded onto the work top. Not sure that the employer would approve though.
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We have had one Morrison's delivery so far. The majority of the bags were thin plastic. Only one large paper carrier with one Aubergine in it. It probably depends on what they can get. Another M delivery Tuesday so we will see how that arrives.
The first and only delivery from Waitrose, at the start of this (no slots available since) was in bags for life. As was the first from Tesco, although these were replaced by thin plastic on the next delivery. Now Tesco slots have dried up and we are on to Morrison's.
I am just grateful to be able to get deliveries. Hopefully we will eventually be able to go back to not using plastic bags. However, I fully understand the reason currently and not everyone can lift a heavy bag. Hence there reason, I think, for the number used. In general the packing on our orders has been sensible.
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Strange this new way of life. Charity bag just pushed through the letterbox, the sort asking for old clothes. Which I never use, as very little goes to the charity, under normal circumstances we always deliver straight to the shop. Anyway, I took some kitchen paper picked it up dropped it into the bin, washed hands. Well how many letter boxes has that person touched and when did he wash his hands. But I did this without really thinking, like I said new way of life.
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Could say the same for the Postman but we cannot live in a completely insular way, so open letters as usual then wash hands after disposing of contents or filed. We have put a note by the letter box asking "Postman delivery letters only", this was after the bl**dy Avon lady still carried on delivering her books and order form.
Don't even want the slips offering help from the local community delivered by hand through the box.Just a case for us in minimising the risk as far as possible without sending us doolally with infection delirium.
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