Corona Virus Concerns

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  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1622

    My "friend" as you'd know if you read my earlier post is a Wiltshire Police Highways officer. They were aghast at the implications of last night's /this morning's announcement. I will see her again tomorrow to see what the thinking is now there has been that clarification. 

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1623

    Dominic Raab has just, this minute, again said in Parliament that the quarantine, with some exceptions will apply to all ports and airports. So is that the final position, I wonder? undecided

  • Compo
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    edited May 2020 #1624

    I enjoy visiting garden centres. I understand some are now allowed to open in Wales. Am I allowed to visit or is this just for people who live in Wales ?

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1625

    AS it does not apply until the end of May there will be time to discover.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #1626

    Aghhh! We're doomed 😰

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1627

    It matters not who he is M in relation to policing the regulations. Since their will no longer be a ban on car travel the police do not need the power to prevent car travel (within England). Whether they disagree or not is a separate consideration. If he has a desire to prevent public car travel he could apply for a post in Wales.

    Is he also devastated that he cannot move on people for sitting on a bench in the sun?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2020 #1628

    This is the kind of press release I read. 😂 Only the headlines, you’ll have to sign in for any more. They must put social distancing and sanitisation points in place, and control numbers going in and out. And no, you can’t use a cafe, they will remain closed.

    https://www.hortweek.com/england-garden-centres-reopen-13-may-coronavirus-lockdown-eases-official-updated/retail/article/1682793

    Haven’t got a clue about Welsh, Scottish or N Irish garden centres. They will have other advice. 

    I will have no problem whatsoever complying with what’s required of me when visiting. But I do worry about trusting the thousands of others who will be around me. So I won’t be rushing back. Besides, my garden overfloweth.........😁

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2020 #1629

    Yep. Areas with low case numbers have apparently been thrown under an (English) bus. Just like the care homes were...... But on a positive, if you wear a mask on London Transport your immortality is guaranteed. 

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1630

    But I do worry about trusting the thousands of others who will be around me.

    Our local centre here in Wales is open. Would not worry about thousands around as numbers inside will be limited laughing

    As for the previous question of can I travel into a Welsh garden centre ..... Wales is closed but you should be OK as long as not stopped or travelling too far over the border wink

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1631

    But on a positive, if you wear a mask on London Transport your immortality is guaranteed. 

    But your place on transport isn't!

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1632

    Blimey, Alan, and you said you'd been avoiding the forum because of nit picking?! undecided

    First of all, it's "she" not "he" and secondly we spoke before today's "clarification" - there was no hint last night that travel would be unlimited.

    Both those facts you would have been aware of if you'd read my posts carefully.

    As for your last sentence, since when have traffic officers been responsible for policing parks? Or did you miss that as well?

    By all means disagree, but try to do it from an informed viewpoint rather than a partial (at best) understanding of what I've written. 

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2020 #1633

    You can not cross the border into Wales. Full stop.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #1634

    not even if you're a key worker going to work?

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2020 #1635

    Brilliant, now I can drive to Cornwall, have a game of tennis buy some plants in a garden centre and then drive home cool

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1636

    I simply responded to the post that I read M and there is simply no need for any member of the police to have a power to police a regulation that no longer exists. Nothing to do with nitpicking M. Whether a member of the police mourns the loss of ability to police a regulation that does not exist is irrelevant.

    If your friend (of whatever division or sex as that is irrelevant to me) simply disagrees with the changes then that is fine and they are welcome to their opinion as far as I am concerned. As far as carrying out their duties though it is what it is and they have no need to intervene.

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  • huskydog
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    edited May 2020 #1638

    The game of tennis is optional cool

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2020 #1639

    you only play with members of your household

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #1640

    And visit Philps if they decide to open.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2020 #1641

    I have a nice little nursery one mile away, been open all through lockdown, doing veg and fruit boxes delivered. If you are having food, you can get other garden supplies along with it, if it’s in stock. As a business, they are a shining example of survival. Got together with local farmers, set everything up in under a week, word of mouth spread how good the quality and deliveries were, and they have been inundated. We drove past on Saturday, saw it was open for collections, so I popped into car park and saw what they had set up. Spaced parking, staff looking after that, and sanitising each plant trolley between customers. One way system through plant areas, indoor areas closed to visitors, but you could ask and a staff member got it for you. You still had to purchase food or no plants. Payment by card only, POS machine and  card machine outside, sanitised between customers. They had plenty of staff ensuring things ran smoothly and took no nonsense from anyone. You complied or you were asked to leave. Let’s hope other places are as good, but I very much doubt it. Big places will simply be a nightmare. Not for me.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2020 #1642

    I am not the arbiter, we shall just see what the police do if they stop someone. Even higher fines available to them now. Great

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1643

    Last point in this exchange I hope - you still don't get it do you,  Alan?

    The conversation was before this morning's "clarification" (such as it was). The briefing she was referring to was at the end of last night's shift. Can't make it any clearer than that I'm afraid. smile

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2020 #1644

    It’s ok , I’ve still got some in the freezer from the last time I ordered from them cool

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1645

    You can but you may not smile Anybody travelling from England the 4 miles to our nearby garden centre in the border area of Deeside stands little to no chance of being stopped and asked to return to England

  • no one
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    edited May 2020 #1646

    Sometimes its actually inside the machinery although I am not as flexible as I used to be so a torch becomes very useful surprised

    The carparks are on Dutchy of Cornwall land and run by the councils they have the right to close whatever they want iaw their populous opinion and bylaws. It is the Council coffers that suffer as the summer income from car parking is in the millions of pounds.Although the ground can become sticky after a rain storm.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2020 #1647

    Last point in this exchange I hope - you still don't get it do you, Alan?

    Nor do you need to continue the exchange M. Clarification is not needed as I commented not on your post beyond what you stated regarding your friends comments. I have no desire to engage with you M but merely did the courtesy of responding to your 'clarification' of your friends sex and divisional employment within the police and I am more than happy to leave it at that.

  • Rufs
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    edited May 2020 #1648

    This is the face, or not, of law enforcement in Spain, road blocks manned by armed police to stop you driving into prohibited areas undecided 

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #1649

    "Sigh" - I give up,  Alan, I really do! frown

  • Whittakerr
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    edited May 2020 #1650

    In the forthcoming clarifications on travel restrictions (or lack of), i wonder if people from Wales will be allowed to cross the border in to England? Surely they wouldn't want to but you never know.

     

     

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2020 #1651

    It would seem that if I want to take my MH for a run, to comply with the law I should stop and presumably access an open space. Seems more sensible to me and safer for myself / others, to take it for a run 20 miles or so up the A1 and return directly to storage, not pausing at said open space.😀Although I could call in at Clumber on the way back.