Brave New World?

mickysf
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edited May 2020 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

We are constantly being told that we are now living in unprecedented times and that our 'world' will change as a result. How do folk see the future of our wonderful pastime changing and, once out and free, how will it possibly have evolved. Will your leisure behaviours change?

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  • peedee
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    edited May 2020 #2

    I don't see it changing that much. If there were no cures or vaccines I think eventually people would accept the risks and carry on as normal. Life would not be worth living if you put it on hold.

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  • mickysf
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    Our pastime has changed, some would say considerably, even over the last few decades without Covid. It will I'm sure, continue to change with it and as a result of it! I reckon 'staycations' will increase and possibly the number of sites required will too to meet this demand. 

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  • mickysf
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    Have those ideas come about as a result of this challenge we all face David or are they just ideas for old ways?

  • thebells
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     A very interesting question. If our children were still young enough to come away with us I'd certainly be considering changing our caravanning habits. The thought of large sites with play areas and pools and lots of social interaction would fill me with trepidation and I'd be avoiding them for some considerable time going forward.

    However, since our current routine is just me hubby and 2 dogs going to cl sites and spending our time fell walking I'd change very little. We don't have that much social interaction on these sites (often not even meeting owner!). The one thing I'd avoid and miss would be trips to the local pub for meals etc... but since lockdown my cooking repetoir has grown considerably anyway😀

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  • mickysf
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    Reading various news feeds it would appear that the cruise industry is bracing its self for a very rocky ride and an uncertain future.

    There are lots of lovely places here in the UK David to explore and I'd suggest many folk would be far more comfortable in their own mobile accommodation rather than a hotel bedroom or B&B. Well certainly for the foreseeable future!

  • mickysf
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    We too, I feel that many of us will feel the same and this will increase CL uptake and probably costs for the privilege of such 'isolation'. No bad thing many might say if cost was reasonable.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #10

    AD do you think the breakdown cover/repatriation service will still be both available & affordable?

  • mickysf
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    Social distancing in one form or another I'm sure will continue and that may change 'things' considerably. Toilet blocks, pot wash areas, information 'huts' and games rooms may be provided/used very differently.  As most, if not all of us, have ablution facilities on board the communal areas such as toilet/shower blocks may possibly disappear.

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  • mickysf
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    Interesting, maybe seasonal pitches in the UK (for those not adverse) may become increasingly requested.

  • Takethedogalong
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    We have a lovely stock of remote, quiet but very nice sites to enjoy, away from too much hustle and bustle. We have always been happy using our own facilities, managing with whatever outfit we are using. All that will change is we will carry more supplies with us to cut down on shop visits, carry gloves for communal areas like CDP points and taps and probably use more of these sites. Our fear is that they might get invaded by others attempting the same.

    Days will be happily spent walking, cycling, sitting outside, reading, crafting, cooking nice meals, chatting at a distance with like minded friends. We might think twice about things like big house visits, museum visits, indoor sports events etc...., but that will depend on how organised the visitor attraction is, and what risks we consider to be there. Once a week for a masked and gloved shop and fuel fill up......job done. Either pay by card, or write a cheque, none of that filthy paper or metal to change hands. It’s perfectly possible to share an on-site meal with friends, they bring their table/chairs/crockery/cutlery and we sit outside a safe distance apart.

    Its primarily what we do now. 😁

  • GJac
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    edited May 2020 #15

    My concern is will any town or village want us back?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2020 #16

    An increase of "no facs" sites at an appropriate modest fee would doubtless be welcomed by a significant number of the membership.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #17

    At some point it will return to a semblance of normality👍🏻. The ‘insurance’ services may jack up their charges massively rendering your musings workable. Whichever-a plan B is always a good move.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2020 #18

    I think that if they have a tourism industry it’s ‘you’re welcome’ or they shut up shop/s🤷🏻‍♂️

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #19

    We have some friends who live in Bourton on the Water ,and when we asked them ,how do they get on with all the tourists? their answer as they say is  as most who have lived in the village for years

    "If we did not have the tourists we would not have the facilities that we enjoy all year round , it would be like the majority in this country with nothing now"

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2020 #20

    Definitely but all in good time once the risk is minimised. 

  • Pliers
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    edited May 2020 #21

    That’s a concern that I have, too. I certainly wouldn’t want to arrive somewhere and find the place decorated with “turn round and go home now “ home made signs.

    I’ll wait and see how things progress before travelling anywhere.

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  • huskydog
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    edited May 2020 #22

    Of course they will , but when the time is right and not before laughing

  • MichaelT
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    edited May 2020 #23

    Either pay by card, or write a cheque, none of that filthy paper or metal to change hands.

    What are your cheques made out of TDA, last time I looked at my cheque book (about 5 years ago) they were all made of paper, are the new ones plastic or something?wink

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 2020 #24

    Rocky's question about overseas cover springs to mind for our circumstances.

    There are several more trips to various countries that we wish to make with the caravan but I'm not sure that the medical insurance industry will provide me with an effective insurance contract to do so. This without even thinking about the ramifications of Brexit.

    I can see us drawing our horns in for a little while to see how things settle down abroad and to wait for a vaccine.

    In the meantime we'll toddle along, much like Ttda, on Cls and quiet sites, spending most of time out of doors doing some sort of exercise. Not much different from being at home.

    As to what sites will look like or the industry itself then I do think there will be an increase in holidays in the UK for a year or two. 

    Major airlines and manufacturers are suggesting that it could take up to 5 years to recover for them. I think a few airlines will go under but people will always be seeking the sun or pastures new and eventually all will return to pre corvid levels.

    We hope we'll be around to enjoy whatever it is that we are able to do.

  • no one
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    I Spent most of my working life away from home/UK visiting many many countries ( to the point where I would never go abroad for leisure or a holiday) I am retiring from this job next year with still room for some form of employment if needed.

    But, the current situation has made me realise how grateful I should be regarding where we have lived for the last 30 years, rediscovering our local area, its amazing what you can learn about your local area, even on a small Isle like Portland after all this time.

    It makes me wonder what else is out there waiting to be discovered in this wonderful land of ours, if Molly MH (she is 25) is up to it, I think the change for us would be to venture within the 4 nations of the UK discovering new places and adventures, ie 'proper' touring, rather than just go to a campsite sit for a week or 2 (normally visiting friends and relatives) then go home.

    How government driven restrictions will change things, we will have to wait and see when they publish the first road map to ease the lockdown.......

     

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #26

    There was(before this virus) many hundreds of LV owners from overseas who would come to these "sceptered isles" year after year,for what we have.cool

    ,It is it seems those of us who do not appreciate it, and would rather travel hundres if not thousands of miles for a bit more sun than we at times do not have hereundecided

    , But  watching the weather for "over there "are now it seems catching up and even beating those countrieslaughing

  • harryb
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    edited May 2020 #28

    For an appropriate Modest Fee. 

    I will second that

  • harryb
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    edited May 2020 #29

    Mickysf said,

    "Reading various news feeds it would appear that the cruise industry is bracing its self for a very rocky ride and an uncertain future."

    We have a cruise booked for next summer and I have just watched a video on news of the cruise industry. Countries not wanting tourists, towns not wanting tourists etc all because people are worried  health checks and doctors letters before travel. It painted a lot of doubt about the future. From what was said we are now thinking it may not be worth it.

    The same could happen here. No doubt some of the issues in the report will be discussed by smaller companies in the industry. If sites here have got to adhere to social distancing and that means cutting back on pitches then that loss of revenue will have to be clawed back from somewhere and that will be in the cost of the fees.

      Remember at the start of this lockdown. Devon, Cornwall, Cumbria and Scotland told holidays makers and caravanners to stay away. We tour around on holiday so we could be more susceptible to coming into contact with problems en route. Locals may not like that.

    The whole scenario is up in the air at the minute. Let's hope a vaccine can be found which will allay lots of fears

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2020 #30

    Oh for goodness sake,  read previos posts before making "judgements"?

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