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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #122

    The people operating businesses that rely on tourism are also interested in surviving in good health, MT. There is Govt help available for some and each and every one of those business folk will want good trade in future years so will surely see the sense in sacrificing trade this year.

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #123

    Some holiday businesses have been helpful in offering accommodation and hotel rooms for key workers who can't go home. When the time comes for opening up trade everything will hinge on whether the hospitals could still cope with a second outbreak and in the SW this would be a problem. So there is much to plan in the future.

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2020 #124

    I'm really looking forward to returning to normal and hearing how the Brexit negotiations are going. Oh dear, it really is very bad isn't it?crycry

  • MichaelT
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    edited April 2020 #125

    Oh don't get me wrong I agree but I bet they would like to get back to some normality like the rest of us as soon as it is safe to do so, my comments were based on DEBSC comments that he does not want anyone to visit his area (Devon) once they are allowed and I said I bet people who work in tourism etc will think opposite so please get off high horse and read what I was replying to because once the restrictions are lifted you can bet your bottom dollar the help currently given will go so anyone furloughed will not get 80% pay and if no one visits their tourist attraction because DEBSC and the like make such a fuss for people to stay away then those businesses will close and may never open as some may say well when it was all over they did not want us to visit so we will visit somewhere where we were made welcome not only by the tourist attractions but by the locals too.  just saying you cannot have your cake and eat it....smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #126

    No high horse here, MT. You probably need to live here to understand the point of view Debsc and I have and, yes, I did read her post.

    Btw, I think you’ve won this year's award for posting the longest sentence.😂

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2020 #127

    I think that there are lots of places in the UK that depend on tourism,so I don’t think it’s just people in the South west that should be concerned,everyone should be when the UK is opened up .....

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #128

    Quite so. Fisherman has posted very eloquently on the situation in Wales.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #129

    I think the point about the South West is the relative lack of hospital facilities though. Probably the worst provided for area of the country. And that is one of the reasons why I can't see restrictions being lifted before September at the earliest. I just can't see the government wanting to risk things until after the traditional July/August period. I hope I'm wrong, but safety of the majority (and primarily residents in any area) must come first.

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  • huskydog
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    edited April 2020 #131

    I think you could be right , personally even if the UK was opened up in July/August I wouldn’t  want to go anywhere where they could be lots of people until at least the end of the year 

    P.S , answering M’s post

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #133

    All I know, BB, is that Treliske, which is Cornwall's only general hospital, is stretched every summer due to the influx of tourists and every winter due to 'normal' winter illnesses. Ambulances queued outside A&E unable to offload patients due to the sheer number of cases is a frequent occurrence. 

    Patients are getting beds but, as in the rest of the country, it’s at the expense of those requiring routine treatments and surgery. Private hospitals have also been taken over by the NHS meaning anyone who normally pays for treatment no longer has that option and they too are now placing more workload on the NHS.

    Imagine that scenario magnified by x amount due to Covid19 cases whether home grown or being experienced by an influx of visitors. It's a bad time and resources shouldn't be tested further.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #134

    Normally 15 intensive care beds to cover the whole of Cornwall and even if the plans to increase 10 fold ever came to fruition the hospital would still be stretched beyond capacity if the restrictions were prematurely  lifted and a second (or further) "peak" occurred.  No idea how that compares with, say Bristol or Swindon but then they don't attract huge numbers of holiday makers. 

    https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2020-04-01/chief-executive-of-the-royal-cornwall-hospital-reveals-plans-for-a-ten-fold-increase-in-intensive-care-beds/

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  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #136

    Some of the ICUs in the SW offer specialist provision for certain types of treatment so people have to travel to them if needed. I do know that one of them has not had all their ICU beds filled due to Covid19, but that might have been a blip. In the meantime there is a backlog of delayed treatments for those without Covid19. It's going to take longer to work through those lists without an influx of holidaymakers coming along suffering attacks from seagulls, severe loss of chips, jelly fish stings, rescued from the sea on inflatable swans etc.... wink

  • DEBSC
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    edited April 2020 #137

    When I speak of holiday makers coming here some people seem to get on their high horse and believe that I am just being nasty, I am not I am genuinely very worried for my family and myself - as no doubt we all are. Last year I waited an hour in traffic on a small road to travel less than a mile to get into our supermarket as the roads become so conjested at holiday time. Our one small hospital for 50 miles always struggles, as does the ambulance service and the Police. I'm sure that readers on here act appropriately on holiday, unfortunately a lot don't. My daughter, who lives in a coastal village, on the majority of summer mornings has to tip a bowl of disinfectant water over her front door step as someone will have vomited there the night before. Our population becomes so much higher in the summer it's difficult to cope, we get used to empty supermarket shelves. I'm only saying that this year we are worried, as must be other tourist areas.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #138

    Last year I waited an hour in traffic on a small road to travel less than a mile to get into our supermarket as the roads become so congested at holiday time.

    It's like that on the M6/M5/M61/M62/M3/etc etc every day ... 🙄

  • DEBSC
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    edited April 2020 #139

    Yes I know, exactly my point, I am talking about a very small back road.

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  • davetommo
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    edited April 2020 #141

    2 hours every morning waiting to get onto the m60 from the m61.

  • davetommo
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    edited April 2020 #142

    Have you ever thought of moving if it annoys you that much

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #143

    It matters not how many extra beds are deployed ,as has been noted at the Nightingale in London , they have been turning patients away because there is not enough staff frown

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #144

    Have you ever thought of moving?

  • davetommo
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    edited April 2020 #145

    Nope. When I used to get stuck in it I was working so on pay. Best skive I ever got.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #146

    See, every cloud has a silver lining👍🏻

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2020 #147

    We had word today from Lanzarote that, Senor Torres,who is President of the Canary Islands has confirmed that the reinstigation of the international tourism would  follow  a three phase plan.

    This is part of his speech.

    Residents of the Canaries will take first priority, with movement of local being introduced first.

    The second phase will see Spaniards from the countries mainland able to visit the Canary Islands.

    Finally, holidaymakers from abroad will once again will be able to access the islands.

    Torres continued: That way, in October, November or December, which are good months in the Canary Islands, we can begin to receive tourist from other countries.

     

    I wonder if we will see this type of thing all across Europe. If so it could well be that our next visit will be 2021.

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2020 #148

    For me personally I think it will be a year after lockdown that I would consider going to France or Italy.  My first trips over there will probably Northern Germany around the Baltic

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2020 #149

    Evening

    You're last sentence TG pretty much sums up my opinionsurprised

    JK

  • ABM
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    edited April 2020 #150

    JK,

    Will that affect you and your future life in Spain ??

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2020 #151

    Most probably will Brian but you know, I can put that on hold. More important that we're all still here eh? We'd planned to "move" there last November but delving into Spanish beaurocracy has taken an age. So, we were all set for the move this September but I'm guessing we won't see the Spanish sun this year! Fingers crossed this country muddles through and we see better times. wink

    JK