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  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2020 #122

    With the prevalence of air travel and the consequent sticking 200+ people in a sealed tube breathing recycled air, we have created the world's fastest petri dish.

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2020 #123

    An article I read last week was suggesting that the so named democratic nations could have considerably more issues regarding containment than the 'others' who have less or even in some instances no freedom of speech or action.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #124

    There are larger floating ones CY, cruises are going to be cheap this year......🤔

     

  • brue
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    edited February 2020 #125

    Air recycling on planes is pretty good, more likely contact with surfaces, upholstery etc could harbour bacteria etc. As everyone has said, wash your hands well and frequently wherever you are.

  • Metheven
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    edited February 2020 #126

    Yes you can die from it but also by the flu virus, should it be left to burn itself out in the hope that some immunity will build from it. After all the annual flu vaccines help us fight all that has gone before and there are new strains of that year on year to contend with.

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  • mickysf
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    edited February 2020 #128

    This is true to some extent but 'they' are always guessing, educated guesses that is, as to which already known forms are are going to raise their ugly heads. This one was not known and appeared out of the blue so to speak. These are the potentially dangerous ones. We become reactive and not proactive until they are realised. Then how proactive we become may be just a race against the odds.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2020 #129

    Anything that recycles air is at risk of recycling germs. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2020 #130

    I suppose within 2/3 weeks we will have a clearer idea of the likely spread of this virus in the UK. No doubt what the authorities are looking for is a large spike in cases and how those cases came about. I am not suggesting it couldn't become really serious but we have at least had a bit more time to get information out to the public so we should all be thinking about what precautions we should be applying to ourselves. I understand there is going to be a publicity campaign on personal hygiene like washing hands and taking care to use tissues and their disposal. For the life of me why people need to be told this I have no idea. As for being abroad and being restricted in movement. As the nice as the place is you are staying in there could be other issues that could arise like food shortages. I am sure even Paradis could seem like a prison if you can't get out of it!!! The major benefit of our hobby is that we can make as few or as many plans as we want so have a bit more freedom.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #131

    The last  thing we do on most sites now is open the barrierto get out then put card in box by barriersurprised

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2020 #132

    I would imagine our hobby is a fairly good one in terms of risk. Unlike staying in a hotel, it is much easier to limit your exposure to others, if you want to. Plus of course all the surfaces in your accommodation are yours. It could prove logistically difficult if forced to self isolate for 14 days. Whilst I think we could manage that at home, food and water would certainly give out in our MH.

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  • brue
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    edited February 2020 #135

    It's probably the very dry air as the filtration systems are good.. we were involved in filtration systems at work, amongst other things.  Dry air dries out nasal passages etc making it easier for bugs to enter. I think air conditioners can have a similar effect?

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  • Freddy55
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    edited February 2020 #138

    An interesting read here

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2020 #139

    Strange thing is that a suggestion is that those of us in good health and with a particularly strong and virile immune system may stand a better chance of fighting the virus. One way to obtain a strong and virile immune system is to be exposed to germs and viruses. It worked for the milkmaids (smallpox epidemic) and apparently children today brought up in particularly sterile environments can develop asthma and other diseases more easily. I'm constantly washing and cleansing as suggested and so should all others.

  • tricia11
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    edited February 2020 #140

    I think the spray was to kill mosquito s.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #142

    Since posting last I was listening to the Jeremy Vine while driving and he had professor of virology, John somebody from the University of London who made some interesting points:

    The projected death rate will be 1% and more likely 0.5% of infected cases.

    The virus is less contagious than flu, it is was like flu the number of cases now would be about 50,000 not 17

    Best way to stop it to stop shaking hands with people, and stop close contact - if they can smell your breath it is too late. He even suggested sleeping apart from OH for a while.

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2020 #143

    Sleep alone geez C😱, it’s winter, I’d sooner be poorly😊

  • Freddy55
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    edited February 2020 #144

    First Brit death...

     

    BBC News

     
  • moulesy
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    edited February 2020 #145

    Interestingly, South African airlines did spray the cabin on the two internal flights we took last week, but not on the ones to and from Heathrow. Not sure why that would be?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #146

    Yes, very sad. Figures of any source are meaningless for this poor person’s family. British, but not a British resident.

  • GVD
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    edited February 2020 #147

    More people die of the Flu. That is more contagious.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2020 #148

    Thanks for that gavin, sure it will reassure lots of vulnerable folks.

    Meanwhile in Iran, Friday prayers are being discouraged in certain places, but top clerics are up in arms, saying that mosques should be kept open as “places for cure”🤨

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2020 #149

    The only certain thing about the figures we have now is that they will be different to those at the end of the infection period. We do have the possible advantage that because we weren't in the vanguard of the infection we know more and can do more to slow it down and avoid infection. Unless there is something about the virus we don't yet know that could turn everything on its head, there is the chance that things might not be as bad as we fear. 

    David

     

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  • mickysf
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    edited February 2020 #151

    And possibly rather dangerous assumptions and a standpoint.