Coronavirus Worries
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If you book the Tunnel crossing direct with Eurotunnel you can change the crossing date and time online as often as you like to suit when you feel you want to cross if you have any doubts about the Virus.
If you book with the crossing with the Club I believe there is a 'fee' to pay every time you alter the booking.
Just saying ......
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Foreign Office travel advice to not travel to Italy or only to travel on essential business, see their website. You'll see they've updated it in the last couple of days to advise only essential travel for the 10 towns the Italians have locked down.
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In the school I was at today, some kid had reported feeling unwell at break with 'flu like symptoms' and said he had been skiing in Italy last week
Everyone slightly on edge until his parents were called and he hadn't even been out of the town since Christmas.
A good performance though, apparently he had taken his tie off, was shivering and had a mate spray his forehead with water.
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Yes indeed lol.
Actually they were thinking what the punishment should be, some favoured a one day exclusion, though some thought that would be too much?. But if they hadn't got the parents so quickly just imagine what would have happened. I'll leave to it everyone to leave their choice of punishment but yes, cleaning toilets would be good.
I wasn't there to look at disciplinary procedures but I was very impressed with their lockdown drill put into real practice. No one could leave their rooms, all doors secured as could be, school fully locked. I didn't know what was going on and it was quite scary being told to stand or sit in the corner hidden away from the door.
OT but it is concerning that schools now have to practice lock down drills as well as fire drills
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Unless it mutates, I wouldn’t say so. Flu is more dangerous I believe? I think the ‘big deal’ with this virus is how easily it’s passed on, highly contagious. I think the fatality rate is around 2%, not a high percentage, but numerically very significant.
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Flu kills up to 1 million globally each year yet there are still people who don't take the flu jab when offered.
Deaths of Coronavirus still in the low few thousand. No need to panic just yet. There are far more mundane ways of dying to worry about, like every time you get in your car.
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Same no👍🏻. It’s being ramped up to levels of hysteria. War, famine & the flu virus is culling our species massively annually. Stay away from big crowds, wash your hands regularly always before eating. Jobs-a-gud un.
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All my motorhome touring is going to be spur of the moment stuff this year. I want to go to a couple of events but I am holding of booking them to see how things develop. The Government could well ban these if it gets bad. I have a couple of Club sites booked but as we know they are not cast in tablets of stone and should the need arise they can be cancelled..What with flooods, corona and appointments, I'm maintaining a much more flexible approach to touring this year than usual.
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My concern is the dithering by government and lack of knowledge and advice being given regarding travel and then self quarenteening, some of this contradictory. We are told that it may be contagious prior to the symptoms showing themselves, we are told its airborne and surface contact that spread is made possible and that transit hubs (airports, train/bus stations, ferry terminals may be prime facilitator of global spread. Then of course, it could be two weeks, possibly more before the symptoms, some which resemble a sniffle, may even show. Not an easy task to monitor and track possible carriers both in the present and future and difficult for us to assess our likelihood of contamination. And how on earth do we know the intimate details and travels of those next to us in the supermarket checkout queue once we are back home or even those of us who haven't even stepped off our shores.
We live in a world of work where we are told to 'man up' and 'carry on' so how many folk will take that extra two weeks of enforced absence from work on the strength of a innocuous appearing mild cold like symptom or our own appraisal of our likelihood of harbouring the dormant unobserved virus.
Two,weeks ago I would have gone to Italy, now I'm pretty sure I would not. Why? Because of the conflicting advice and lack of definitive 'guidance' from above.
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If the Govt told folk NOT to go to places they would be classed as nannying🤷🏻♂️. common sense to the rescue-for me-world travel right now. . .No. working with the flu/flu like symptoms is irresponsible it only hurts others. ‘man up’ attitude is just stupid & super irresponsible.
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You raise a good point. If you do have to cancel those club sites then (within the 72 hours) you won't have lost a penny. I notice from those sites you recommended the other day that even though they have your preferred EHU metering system one has a £30 non transferable non refundable deposit.
My point is I wonder if one as to cancel any site anywhere would the site give that back. I suppose for over there holidays then one would have travel insurance but for UK trips does everyone have it?
This deposit, and often non nonrefundable, can come to quite a lot just in the UK, from memory it can be £30+ per day on one site I remember looking at.
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Pretty much agree with all of this but still the dilemmas, the contradictory advice and lack of definitive guidance regarding aspects of this issue remain. Yes, Nanny state accusations may be made but sometimes nanny may knows best, that depends I'm afraid on who is paying nanny and who is listening to her, who is pulling her purse strings. Trouble is nanny has her hands in many facets of 'our' lives and some connected aspects may be 'believed' to out trump others. Is it damage limitation now for us the individuals and/or country? Human rights and the right to make our own decisions can often cause more problems. The saying 'live and let live' may have a different meaning in the near future.
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Micky - I seem to remember you saying you were hoping to get to Borneo this year? Have you had to put those plans on hold?
I think we were probably quite lucky to get away when we did - although the whole of Southern Africa seems to have remained clear so far it can surely only be a matter of time before the virus shows up there too.
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Yes, we got away prior to the initial escalation of the issue. Has since made me far more aware and questioning of related problems, implications and actions mind. You the same, M?
Just a thought but maybe now people should be encouraged to use their own toilet and washroom facilities in their vans rather than those on site ! That may help reduce spread.
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Let's face it, at the moment, no one, not even governments can be totally definitive about how to deal with this. It's not yet a pandemic and the percentage of deaths are relatively low compared with the annual death rates from flu. I'm pretty sure the boffins will be working on a vaccination. At the moment at we can do is use our commonsense and travel is we think it appropriate.
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I think governments were trying to 'face up' to the task of ensuring it did not become a pandemic in the initial period. Some are now suggesting we are possibly headed toward that right now.j
Just wondering what is the last thing folk do prior to handing in that key fob on leaving site. May call for a practice change for recipient and the deliverer.
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I think there's probably a far bigger risk in using handrails, shopping trolleys and the like in busy shops and town centres than the regularly cleaned facility blocks on site used by a relatively small number of people.
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Yes, but it should be about reducing possible cross contamination wherever and whenever it may arise. Of course there will be higher and lower risks. Using your own facilities is the very lowest and only implicates you, the owner. Regularly cleaned? It's only as clean as the last person using it!
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The virus knows no boundaries or borders so people need to change their habits. I have to go to hospital on a regular basis and always use the sanitizers on the way in and out of wards and my observation is many, many people don’t. The mind set needs to change.
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Can’t help wondering if this could be the once in a generation biggy. Sadly I also think that the sheer ease of travel in all its myriad forms, allied to a much heightened sense of “me first” is going to mean that it will take some drastic measures to keep it controlled.
China has had to look deeply at itself in terms of being honest with the rest of the World, the very religious and sectarian Middle East is going to have to come to terms with balancing its beliefs against the scientific evidence confronting it, and the Consumer based nations are also going to have to take stock. This requires the whole world to help each other, and be honest, truthful and generous. North Korea might not make it.............☹️
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