CAMC 10amp Electric?

189101113

Comments

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #362

    Actually not since Brexit, no! 

    Anyway you said that you don't approve of spellings being corrected and here you are doing just that. You little tinkersmile 

    But rest assured I'll now be on the lookout for any of your errors, no need to thank me.

    Actually I can't remember when I last used a check/cheque.

     

     

     

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #363

    That's the spirit PO or was it CPO? smile

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #364

    Personally I am not in favour of metering on site. However, I fear it is something we are going to have to accept in the not to distant future. This stop gap charge for EHU and Hybrids is ridiculous. ( I don't have one ) A additional fixed charge on a bollard you are already paying for your electric in the site fee. It takes no account of wether a full charge or just a top up is required. Metering would clearly solve this and as the number of electric vehicles increase, I think it is inevitable.

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #365

    I cannot imagine that both don't preform equally. So is there really a need to check calibration, if so, how onerous is such a task a part of routine maintenance and inspection? In the absence of such information it is not a red herring.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #366

    at least it would stop all these types of discussions on heresmile

    Bit like all the 'booking day' threads (ah happy times) then everyone complains about the new system

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #367

    wonder why petrol pumps have calibration stickers? why PAT stickers?

    Things do break down, at the moment you want meters to ensure you only pay for what you use, yet you're not in favour of a system that ensures that?

  • Takethedogalong
    Takethedogalong Forum Participant Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭
    10,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #368

    What you pay for a Club pitch bears little resemblance to what it actually costs to use that pitch. Including electricity costs. Club pitch prices are lower in Winter than they are in Summer. Unlike variable price CLs, who tend to charge more in Winter to cover electricity usage. You are of course paying for a lot more on Club Sites, lots of overheads to consider.

    We used to use Club Sites a great deal, but haven’t since around 2002, when we found CLs were offering us more of what we wanted, at less cost. I think a lot of folks have done the same, especially if like us they aren’t restricted to a couple of weeks in Summer. Only the non facility Sites offered reduced fees, but opening times were more restricted, and there are a few less of such sites now still on the network. So, the Club’s economy arm, that giving a wider choice, is actually provided by private owners. 

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #369

    but youre (still) thinking in a box....

    if every pitch had an ehu option (even via a meter) , this could be chosen after booking and after choosing the pitch on arrival, still based on location. this would alleviate Nav's concern upthread. 

    those that want to plug in do so and get charged at whatever the rate, those that dont, don't

    you dont need pitches to be designated 'ehu' or not....theyre all both.

    and as for the admin....it just goes to show how blinkered a view some have of how other sites can work....as Rufs said, it is just a non event, no trouble at all...and you'd even pay your leccy bill in arrears, whats not to like...

    sometimes i get the feeling that some see no difference if the club were to double, halve or eradicate its electric bill altogether...as long as somebody pays.

    well some are fed up with ever increasing prices especially when one of the biggest causes can be reduced...

    perhaps the government would assist with the investment for metering (as the message is for home 'smart' systems) if this was seen as a significant reduction measure.

    it really isnt rocket science.

     

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #370

    nearly as hot as herewink

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #371

    well some are fed up with ever increasing prices especially when one of the biggest causes can be reduced..

    yet everyone has agreed that installing meters will incur an additional cost to prices, debatable how small but an increase non the less.

  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,142 ✭✭✭
    10,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #372

    That’s a strange logic, PD. It’s not the frequency of errors occurring that is the issue but the need to comply. Chalk and cheese, or squid and red herrings😀

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #373

    but at the tiny level mooted above (pence), hardly noticible amongst the rest of the annual 'fee hoist'..poundswink.

    at least two good things would come out of it....the club using less electric overall (now that HAS be a good thing these days, doesnt it?) , and those that use the most pay the most...fair's fair as they say.

  • Takethedogalong
    Takethedogalong Forum Participant Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭
    10,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #374

    I was basing more choice in terms of EHU usage around different types of pitch being available, ie both grass and HS. If the Club only offers it on grass pitches (I haven’t checked if this is the case), then take up isn’t likely to be great. There needs to be both, especially if in a MH, rolling on and off pitch every day. We can happily survive without hook up in rain, but need to be able to get off the pitch! 

    Refurbishment of a Site ought to be including building in more choice for Members, be this grass or HS, hook up or no hook up. Refurbish the bollards so that this can be done, on a rolling programme. This is a form of future proofing pitches, to cope with EVs, give members old and new more choice. Add more fully serviced pitches if that’s what folks want, but consider the other end of the touring scale as well please?🤔

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #375

    I think you confuse me with someone else re spelling ..... I've resisted the temptation on many of yours .... ISTR a recent their/there of yours.

    Whether you can remember using one or not, America use checks ... we on the other hand use cheques.

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #376

    as others have said, why do you think it would lead to less electric being used? Wouldn't with me and that is not a boast. I don't do that at home.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #377

    Personally I am not in favour of metering on site.

    Neither, it would appear, are the mainstream providers of pitches and presumably with good reason. 

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #378

    Because site owners who have gone down this path say so. One stated they had a 50 percent reduction in consumption.

    peedee

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #379

    Neither, it would appear, are the mainstream providers of pitches and presumably with good reason.

    if you are referring to the two Clubs, it could be a question of who blinks first although on the commercial sites I have stayed on with metered electricity, I have noticed it doesn't seem to put people off using them.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #380

    could you give more details of your survey?, How many? where have they said so? I assume these were small sites, CL's, where the cost of installation was very small, and what about their occupancy rates?

    I do wonder why the larger commercial sites don't go down this route? 

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #381

    Could you say what site(s) it was?

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #382

    I was referring to my experience within the UK of all the sites that I visit in the commercial and clubs areas. Not small providers. 

    It may be a question of who blinks first and that those who go down that route might have a problem retaining winter competition with alternative sites. 

    I remember ( a good few years back) when some main banks decided that they would levy a monthly charge for having a credit card. Fairer to those that did not require one? That did not turn out well for them as people gave their cards back

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #383

    and as for the admin....it just goes to show how blinkered a view some have of how other sites can work....as Rufs said, it is just a non event, no trouble at all...and you'd even pay your leccy bill in arrears, whats not to like...

    I don't think that folk are blinkered. They are simply looking at UK main sites, where metered electricity is not generally offered as far as I am aware

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #384

    Until metered electricity is rolled out across both major suppliers of pitches in the Uk,,     probably many years away, all talk of "savings"for the few ,, who may do so when it comes to it? then "in box" thinking is and wiil be alive and kicking,  when it comes to what real life is, and also well into the futurewink

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #385

    It was a quote in an MMM article a few years ago so you would have to ask the magazine.

    peedee

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #386

    Would it help you any Corners especially as you only use Club site so are unlikely to know them?.

    peedee

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #387

    I was interested PD if it is in UK but if you wish not to say which site(s) that is OK and I will just discount the related comment

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #388

    but it might help others? Surely that is more important to you? 

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited February 2020 #389

    Ah I see the way you worded your post implies it was personal information:

    Because site owners who have gone down this path say so. One stated they had a 50 percent reduction in consumption

    Also again would a quote from a article a few years ago from motor home users, or for motor homers users be relevant to a discussion today. I'm sure you will say the type of vehicle is irrelevant but from what I read on here MH are more set up to be less EHU dependant?

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited February 2020 #390

    You're the one who asked the question and you know how I don't like naming sites especially just to apease the disbelievers, but since ET has also asked, I'll relent.

    Banks Farm on the Gower

    Blossom Touring Park

    Drove Lea Farm

    Only the last one could be classed as a small site when I last used it.

    Check them out.

    peedee

    p.s not important at all just fact

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
    1000 Comments
    edited February 2020 #391

    The only one that I was aware of was Aromar near Scarborough where I think they have a number of seasonals as well as general touring pitches.