CAMC 10amp Electric?

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2020 #242

    Yeah, whatever.😝

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2020 #243

    David, folk go on about 'not doing it (whatever) for 200 sites', yet while costs may be 200 times one site, 200 sites provide 200 times the revenue and profit than one....

    each site, taken on its own merits either makes a good profit, makes a loss or is somewhere in the middle.

    those sites that do really well help fund those that dont, allowing the whole network to flourish (supposedly)

    im afraid i just dont buy the 'cant do' mantra when the club as a whole is awash with money...

    are you saying that no CC site would be able to make improvements as its not as profitable as Spanish one, surely not?

    and not all sites need to be improved at one go, perhaps take 20 years as with the MHSPsundecided

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  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #245

    The club obviously makes improvements just, it would seem, the 'improvements' that you would wish to see

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2020 #246

    Electricity consumption is beginning to concern the powers that be in Grimstead Towers with exhortations to consider our usage. As has been said earlier one person's frugal is another profligate or even normal. 

    One can understand those on the frugal end of the spectrum feeling a bit aggrieved at those at the profligate end. If all utilised the supply to the max, it would merely accelerate CAMC's endeavours to cap usage.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #247

    At least the club are investing in something that should not have been needed,undecided and 20 yrs, will they be needed by thencool

    Ps Not heard of other clubs /companies  that are investing that sort of money in this countrytongue-out

    Pps With the investments already on going and in the pipeline,I think the "awash with money"is a bit of a stretchwink

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #248

    Sites?undecided Ithink we had some great sites when in Barcelona last timecool

    Ps the site on the seafront at Santa Susanna was very full,  nice beaches,  full of long stay winter snowbirds frown

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2020 #249

    actually, its a tad warmer 100km south where we are.....but whats your point?

    AD doesnt need me to speak for him but i know he is a well travelled vanner and normally manages quite adequately with low amperage sites when necessary but has decided to get equipped with a cheaper way of purchasing gas which required an adaptor change from Campingaz to Spanish Jumbo.

    again, so what?

    why the continued interrogation?

    and BTW i dont have a clue what BP charges in the summer as im back in the uk at that time of year. in summer its too hot for us, we do other things.

    again, whats any of that got to do with CC and reduced aperage, at least David know better than most what its like to manage at very low levels, far lower thwn being discussed.

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #252

    Stay in a motor caravan at that time of yearundecided , no we walked to and used their "facilities? " we stayed at one of the beachfront hotelscool  then it is noticed how their building's  would never get to be opened to the public in the uk surprised

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #253

    Ps the railway runs along the coast not in the middle of town , past as the station staff say "banana  beachembarassed"to and from Barcelona fares even cheaper than the locals with our international passes,, where we have also stayedcool

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2020 #254

    how many toilet blocks does a typical CC site have....nowhere near five.

    increase occupancy? i told you the site is nearly always full.

    it has invested to make life easier for both customers (new ehu bollards with digital readouts) and office staff (wifi connected bill management).

    the sort of technology you'd think the uk market leader could easily employ....

    i actually wonder if it's actually worth the effort of responding to you as you either dont read the posts or dont understand them.

    seeing your 'in english please' comment to DD following a perfectly understandable post (if you'd read what he was responding to) i guess its the latter.

     

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #256

    So you both are a bit backward with reading others posts,  before jumping in with completely inappropriately worded and normall rude postsundecided

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #257

    how many toilet blocks does a typical CC site have....nowhere near five. 

    The site you talk of has five toilet blocks, no idea which site, how many pitches is the question.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #258

    But why those at the frugal end feel aggrieved?

    Their 'contract' is with the club, the club sets it's prices and one accepts or not. Once one has made that decision is made then what anyone else does with their contract is not their business.

    In a hotel do you feel aggrieved that someone uses the gym more than you? Or if you don't use the gym uses more electricity in their room than you, has the heating set higher than you?

    On an all inclusive meal would anyone feel aggrieved that someone of the next table is eating more than them?

    On all inclusive holiday or cruise do you personally scrutinise how much alcohol someone is using per day and feel aggrieved that you are drinking less. 

    Would you feel aggrieved at all the above or simply get on with your stay and let the restaurant/hotel worry about if they have set the correct price to make a profit. Do you also worry that the company is using any endeavours to cap usage?

    Of course not, and the same with the club, use what you want to enjoy your holiday and stop dictating how others should use their pitch and electricity?

  • Freddy55
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    edited February 2020 #259

    Err, look around you?

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #260

    Sorry forgot about your postscool

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2020 #261

    it has 320 touring pitches, so a fairly large site.

    each group of four pitches shares a cabinet that contains the hook up point and a digital wifi connected meter, so a fair investment.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #262

    Erm ? nothing to do with how the motor caravan makers,  if  they had followed USA practice ,would have designed outlets that would have been user friendly in the first placeundecided but it is very noticeable,  that other UK site owners do not seem to have been so taken in by the motor caravan fraternity   ,them being so unable to help themselves or having more nouse, and getting makers to design the outlets correctly in the first placecool

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #263

    So yes quite large but a fair number of facility blocks. Obvious the CMC does not presently need to upgrade bollards in general

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #264

    Indeed, and that will have be recouped somehow by higher charges in summer perhaps? By as it's business they will expect a return on that investment. maybe they will get more custom than before when it was perhaps in a worse condition? Perhaps the old wiring was dangerous? You haven't given any detail others than its current state.

    But still no reason why the club should replicate that? Spend money that cannot be recouped under UK law, don't really see any point in that?

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #265

    I take it the site you are on , is not full of trees and is on a level piece  and large area of Spanish county side?where there is not a problem with WiFi signals?

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2020 #266

    Except of course in putting up prices, often twice a year at present!!

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #267

    Oh dearundecided but then there are none so helpless as those who do not understand when it suits, is therecool

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2020 #268

    JVB.....I will admit that English is not my first Language, but I do think that I have a pretty good grasp of English, having been here off and on since 1963, having gained a university degree here in Engineering, and having worked here since 1970, but I often struggle to understand your posts.

    Do you read through what you have written before you post it? Does it actually make sense to you?

    A long post with no punctuation is very difficult for anyone else to read, let alone understand.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2020 #269

    I've said the same as DD recently. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited February 2020 #270

    I am trying to recall what the club has said, are the price increases partly to increasing costs (passed on by the energy companies) or by increasing usage?

    If the former and usage is more or less the same, which I think is what was said(?) then I don't think reducing to 10A will help.  

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2020 #271

    As a domestic consumer, we have just switched provider to one who offers a less expensive deal, surely the Club can negotiate a good deal?