Nunnykirk club site

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2019 #62

    We used Nunnykirk three times last year, and two the year before. Not everyone wants to pay big money and have every convenience you can think of when touring. If it goes it will be a very sad loss to us. But then so was Much Wenlock, so might Bromyard Downs if/when that goes. frown

  • peedee
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    edited September 2019 #63

    I made that comment in the context of losing all non facility sites which was what was implied. Pleased to read JVB's post about Bourton especially as it is unlikely to be upgraded.

    FYI JVB on the Continent on unmanned sites, either a warden turns up once a day, usually in the early evening to collect daily payment or if it is unmanned there is usually a number to call for emergencies or enquiries.

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  • peedee
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    edited September 2019 #64

    I made that comment in the context of losing all non facility sites which was what was implied. Pleased to read JVB's post about Bourton especially as it is unlikely to be upgraded.

    FYI JVB on the Continent on unmanned sites, either a warden turns up once a day, usually in the early evening to collect daily payment or if it is unmanned there is usually a number to call for emergencies or enquiries.

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  • peedee
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    edited September 2019 #66

    i also note tha Clachan, Slinfold and Aberbran are to remain a £15 p.n for the rest of the year and throughout 2020. Sounds like Nunnykirk's landlord has put the rent up?

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited September 2019 #67

    MM

    For sites to thrive they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of Club members, many of those want hardstandings and probably wouldn't go to a site with just grass pitches other than in the summer when there is a fair chance they might be dry. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2019 #68

    I just find it sad that a site so different as Nunnykirk is at such risk. Beloved indeed by a small minority, but certainly in our experience it is a quite diverse make up of the membership. certainly we saw families, solo's, couples, new vans, very old vans, camper vans and brand spanking new MHs. 

    Personally. I think the Club has made its mind up it will go. Profit margins come first, and if it isn't hitting its targets then bye bye. I hardly think it's well marketed, and the increase in price mentioned, if correct, is another nail in its coffin.

    Annoying that it a member who has brought this out into the open, Its no wonder so much speculation goes on within the forum. frown

  • Whittakerr
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    edited September 2019 #69

    I'm another that much prefers grass rather than gravel. In the past few years i've found i've been using CC&C sites more, mainly because of the more informal layout and the presence of a lot more grass.

    The loss of Nunnykirk, and other sites like it, would be a detriment to the club in my opinion.

     

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  • EasyT
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    edited September 2019 #71

    cc sites generally already have barriers, automated from the office or by entry/exit key fob, not a huge step (investment) to move to a pay for a card system and allow paying members to come and go as they please.

    I can't recall a single CC non facility with automated barrier BB and you have not visited any. 

  • brue
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    edited September 2019 #72

    I agree with your comments TDA and there are are other leasehold sites out there where facilities are in need of TLC. Maybe Nunnykirk is the one presenting the most challenging problems if it's under used. Increasing the prices doesn't offer an incentive to potential customers and less intake could justify closure. frown

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #73

    I do & make no apologies for stating so. Various club sites have gravel pitches that have merged together to form a huge 4/5/6 pitch area of the stuff ..... who can look at that & prefer its look to that of a large grassed area. Perhaps if there weren't as many hard standings and the pitches weren't crammed in as they are,  there'd be more opportunity to juggle pegs about a bit to even out wear on the remaining grass pitches.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #75

    it would be a significant cost, each members' card would have to be machine readable (bit like your debit card) even if it costs £1 per card?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #76

    who can look at that & prefer its look to that of a large grassed area.

    I can very easily. And it would appear many thousands as well. You are entitled to your opinion  but just don't make it apply to everyone or even think it applies to everyone, what hubrisundecided

    who can look on this and think it's better than a hard standing I mean look at that lovely gouged out tyre track, that pitch will soon be out of use and losing money.

  • huskydog
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    edited September 2019 #77

    I thought "hubris" was a shrub innocent

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #78

    post edit, each card costs about £2.50, how many membership cards are there out there? Each member usually has two cards? 250,000 members...

    Then the cost of getting them ready, then wouldn't it decease security on any site as any card would have access to all club sites? At the moment who goes on site is strictly controlled, or it is on the sites I go to.

    So all this cost to save one site?

  • Wildwood
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    edited September 2019 #79

    According to a warden I spoke to, sites without a barrier are normally managed by a single couple who work only part of the day. If the wardens were not on duty new arrivals could not get in which is not feasible. On sites with a barrier and only two wardens they work all day seven days a week and get rest period when a relief warden comes in.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #80

    but just don't make it apply to everyone or even think it applies to everyone

     

    likewise with your hardstandings ..... and as posted , if club pitches weren't packed in as they are, there'd be the option of shifting the peg a few feet to allow the previous awning area of grass to be under the caravan.

    The CL we stayed on recently had a an area where there's obviously been a ground sheet (not as obvious as the picture you conveniently found) but as there were no pegs we pitched away from it.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited September 2019 #81

    As I've stated In the past few years i've found i've been using CC&C sites more, mainly because of the more informal layout and the presence of a lot more grass.

    I recently stayed for 19 nights on a C&CC site with my awning and breathable ground sheet down for the duration. When everything was lifted ready for departure the grass was yellow, similar to the foreground of the photograph posted above and would have recovered after a few days sunshine on it, as i witnessed other pitches recover during my stay.

    Maybe the CC&C have superior groundstaff?

     

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #82

    Also at every opportunity another mod states that he will do his utmost to make it that he's able to book his choice of hard standing pitch.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #83

    but I don't - I merely say I like HS but I don't expect others to agree, like you do (with all due respect)

    And are they packed in? 3m between outfits seems pretty good to me. 

    And I didn't conveniently find that pic, I actually took it myself the first week on August on a very popular club site, goodness knows what that pitch is like now, if it is still in use?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #84

    I don't expect you or anyone else to agree .... I just tell you what I think.

    3 m between outfits? That's kind of skewing the figures as it's 3m between caravans/motorhomes which leaves a couple of feet of grass finger between pitches. Hence the uniform rows & rows of a club site.

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  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #86

    Bit out of date now "tickets" in our area they tend to use norm and you enter that to pay as appropriate wink

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #87

    The site we are on numerous grass pitches are as corners picture, and just today ,talking to the warden it came up in the conversation, as he said the site is very busy and although the grass pitches are well spaced out (and they look very spacious )although they would like to move the pegs,it would mean having to close several before it could be done  to maintain the recommended fire gaps

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  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #89

    Predictive textyell N P R Cwink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #90

    you mean the club is using all the space available for as many pitches as the can fit in ..... as said, the club cram them in.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #91

    I think you will find there should be enough space between pitches to enable an emergency vehicle i.e. fire appliance  to pass between  any pitch when pitches are occupied