Fully Serviced pitches

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  • EasyT
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    edited September 2018 #62

    My experience is that C&CC sites are generally dearer if you want hardstanding and EHU. C&CC sites later Age Discounts mean there is not much difference for us. 

    Do you by any chance book non EHU PD?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #63

    likewise, when I have checked CCC prices the result is the same.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2018 #64

    Same here. With the old folks discount C&CC prices might be slightly cheaper than CAMC but there’s little in it. Without the discount, they’re often dearer for a like for like pitch. 

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited September 2018 #65

    If I had the choice the site or CL would provide a bog and tap and that's it, I do not need 240 volt supply,hard standing,do not require a shower.     A site with no facilities but does provide hard standing and electric have got it wrong.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2018 #66

    Not necessarily. Provision of those two elements would provide for a 'year round' accessibility.

  • obbernockle
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    edited September 2018 #67

    You refer to "bog". I guess you mean toilet. Strange that choice as a traditional CL would have a tap and chemical disposal point. We like them like that, and although we use the electric hook up and all that, we would happily use CL's with no electric. If they were all bog standard ( I mean water and chemical disposal point) we would be satisfied..

  • Bob & Moira
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    edited October 2018 #68

    Obviously a great debate rages over serviced pitches !  Personally I use them due to physical limitations of heaving quantities of fresh and waste water around .  Its the reason I invested in a motor mover some years age as I would otherwise have had to give up caravanning, which I am reluctant to do. Sure there is an additional charge for the added convenience but one I am happy to accept. I agree searching for sites with serviced pitches could be made easier but David's excellent list is very helpful. Serviced pitches have not "taken over" as some suggest but clearly the club has responded to demand.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #69

    A site with no facilities but does provide hard standing and electric have got it wrong.

    They have it right for me

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2018 #70

    And me too, just wish there were more of them!

  • Navigateur
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    edited October 2018 #71

    How can pitches be honestly described as "fully serviced" when the occupants have to lug their toilet waste to a central point for disposal?

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2018 #72

    Do the club describe them thus? On the pitch types information page they are detailed as:-

    Different pitch types


    There are seven types of pitches across our Club sites:

    Serviced pitches

    These pitches mostly provide all-weather surface and generally an individual ground level inlet to accept grey water. Further shared facilities include illuminated electrical hook up bollard and drinking water. There is an additional charge for this pitch type.

    Super pitches

    Where available, these pitches offer individual facilities, including all-weather pitching surface, illuminated electrical hook up bollard (including booster TV aerial outlet), facilities for drinking water, grey water and chemical disposal, ground level inlet to accept foul water (grey water or sewage) and privacy hedge between each pitch. There is an additional charge for this pitch type.

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited October 2018 #73

    It was quoted by SteveL that Super pitches are classed as having a Chemical disposal point and the pitch is hedged.

    The Cayton (between Filey and Scarborough) Village Club site literature states that their Super pitches have neither.

    We had a Super pitch at Cayton last week and after three days on site it was time to empty my grey tank before we left.

    The Cayton Super pitch has a 'grey' water disposal grate which for my Pilote motorhome is almost, but not quite, inaccessible.

    As it was essential that I didn't slop water everywhere on exiting the site and on my way home I tried the grate at the side of my pitch.

    I had to remove the pitch Peg in order to manoeuvre my Motorhome to within inches of the Power bollard and the grate at its base.

    Lift the plastic grate lid and point, with great difficulty, my flexible plastic waste pipe into the hole.

    I had to hold the pipe to avoid it splashing around and the 100 litres of grey water flowed at great speed down the small hole.

    A MH with a central waste water outlet would not be able to use the grate and I'm not sure where else on site there is a usable disposal outlet – perhaps someone has been to Cayton and could let me know.

    The Cayton site is having an extensive upgrade next year and let's hope that some thought is put into giving a better disposal outlet system than the one that seems to be in use at present for Motorhome users.

    Could I say that the Wardens were excellent during the three days we were there and were helpful, chatty and sociable whenever we had need of their help and advice.

  • markNEScotland
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    edited September 2019 #74

    Agree with you Derek. In answer to the first part of your question, there are actually very few club sites near Winchester and to the west of Hampshire and into Wiltshire; why?

    We are returning north from a stay at Salisbury Hill site- lovely site and excellent wardens (no serviced pitches). There is no doubt that the club is lagging behind sites that are providing fully serviced pitches, which a large proportion of members are now seeking. Also at affordable rates. We are on a cl in Shropshire who have just installed water and drains for each pitch, at £15. Similarly before heading to Salisbury, we found a ‘tranquil ‘ site in Essex fully serviced for £15. We are in our seventies and stay for over a week; don’t mind paying the club supplement for a fully serviced, if there were any, and not alongside the toilet block.

    CMC, give us an update in the magazine on plans for fully serviced over the next few years? Maybe I’ve missed it , lost in the adverts!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2019 #75

    This is an old thread but the subject of serviced pitches has been discussed again recently.

    On what evidence do you base your statement that a large proportion of members are seeking fully serviced pitches at affordable rates, Mark? Have you carried out a survey? If so, you missed me and my response would have been that I neither want nor need a fully serviced pitch.

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2019 #76

    I think because it guarantees a HS pitch as the booking system does not allow a pitch type choice.  In a 3.5-5.5t MH you don't want to be on a grass pitch in wet weatherlaughing

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2019 #77

    Mrs T uses her hair dryer of our modest battery bank, I use the coffee machine and we charge the ebike battery, we do no thave a microwave as never use it but if we did we would use it all via our 2kw inverterwink

  • markNEScotland
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    edited September 2019 #78

    Sorry Michael, insufficient evidence, should have included ‘in our recent experience in talking with other caravanners ‘

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2019 #79

    I think you meant me, rather than Michael. 

    Whatever, you can only have reached a very small proportion of the membership and, tbh, it's really not representative.

    Perhaps you’d get some info on future plans if you contacted the club directly as questions don't often get answered on the forum.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #80

    but the site I was discussing in that post, Edinburgh  (it did say that) was all hard standing, so your point is invalid in this case

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  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #81

    We stay on numerous sites during our annual trips out and are past our mid seventies, and do not recognise the same type of conversations with other members in respect of more serviced pitches on club sites,   and i agree that serviced pitches when installed should not be near the facilities block , but unless there is a complete site refurbishment and all new water and waste supplies are laid  ,then they will be installed where those supplies are close by and that will be the facilities blocks 

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2019 #82

    OK then Mr Pedantic, in general they will book them as they are normally HS pitches, however who knows at Edinburgh it may be the only pitches left to book?undecided

    Triple laughinglaughinglaughing

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2019 #83

    Think again Michael. Southport all hard standing and when I visit in December around 50% (or more) motorhomes out of serviced pitch users.

  • peedee
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    edited September 2019 #84

    In my experience the majority of motorhome owners do not want serviced pitches especially those touring and only staying for short periods, in fact what most are looking for is cheaper pitching than most of the Club sites offer. Perhaps those that are seen on serviced pitches are there for longer than just 2/3 days?

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2019 #85

    Mostcaravanners also seem to want hard standing and so I am not sure the fact that larger motorhomes might want hard stand is really so relevant

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2019 #86

    Only that they are harder to pull off a muddy grass pitch as they are mostly FWD and are likely to sink in whereas a caravan weighs less than half in general and can be towed with a 4*4 a lot easier.

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2019 #87

    Maybe they want to stay for a while and save keep moving to empty/fill they want the convenience of the SP who knows but it is a generalisation.  Perhaps someone who has a MH and uses a SP can offer some insight into why they use them as we don't.

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2019 #88

    Exactly hence the need for smaller quick turn around pitches with no facilities but of course all the dyed in the wool caravaners would be up in arms as they would think MH's would be getting some thing they are not but of course they could be used by all and the caravanners can park their cars in the car park so they do not stray onto another pitch if they so wish? 

    I am sure you could get maybe 4 smaller pitches from 2 large normal pitches with the grass between and have say 3m between vans still (only 3m between our van and the one behind at Kessingland last week) and still keep income level or perhaps up say if a pitch was £20 and you got 4 pitches still =£40 a night at £10 a pitch but make that say £12 and you can make £8 extra with less maintenance as no EHU to check and no grass to cutsmile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2019 #89

    Best go where those pitches exist, MT.

    I thought this thread was about fully serviced pitches, not basic pitching.🤔 

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #90

    hardly as SP go first.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2019 #91

    +1undecided