Fully Serviced pitches

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited September 2018 #32

    BB, it strikes me that those who want it will(& do) pay the extra, you don’t need to, why so upset at those who want SP are happy to pay the extra?🤔. Surely it’s an option for Moho’s too not just C/Vans, jobs a gud un👍🏻

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2018 #33

    They are a great source of add income even if the "facilities" are not used as they are hardstandings winkcool

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited September 2018 #34

    I was responding to the more general question, not site specific.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2018 #35

    Great add incomecool

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #36

    In which case David why reply with my post above it (quoted) as below?

    Posted on 05/09/2018 09:58 by Cornersteady

    But then why are motor homes using SP? The wardens at the edinbugh site they were very popluar with MH, and this was true, on our row of 10 SP, 6 outfits were MH.

    Posted on 05/09/2018 14:02
     
    There could be several reasons. One may be that you are almost guaranteed a hardstanding which is important to a fairly high percentage of motorhomers.

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2018 #37

    no one's 'upset', merely making the point that the club has decided that this is the way to go and with more pitches being converted, the choice of non serviced pitches is getting less and the average pitch price being pushed ever higher.

    with this balance shifting, it may be that folk, who want to stay on a particular site might only have a choice of SP, thus pushing up the already high CC prices...the difference between staying there and not, perhaps?

    prices come up time and time again, yet the club seems determined not to offer anything other than a progressively more expensive offering.

    adding services is great, but let's have them optional.

    there is no option not to take EHU on the vast majority of sites, and now we are spending money to 'upgrade' sites where it's clear many are not interested...

    vans now come with large batteries and water tanks making the need for EHU and water on the pitch less of a priority.

    yet, despite the fact that more and more vans with these capabilities are coming onto site, the club is providing additional SPs which much of the membership doesn't need.

    i agree that a considerable number do want to use this facility, and pay for it, that's wonderful, but equally just as many have no interest in the requirement nor the additional cost.

    as I said, this is a polarising subject.smile

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2018 #38

    so, the club are ploughing on with SP provision, effectively increasing the average price of the pitches on offer, for a percentage of the membership...

    i don't see the difference.

    I have never booked an average pitch BB. If I book a service pitch I am paying £3.90 more a night (£4.90 at Chatsworth). So I don't feel I am expecting anyone else to subsidise it.

    As we have occasionally had to book a standard pitch, because a service was not available. I think it generally unlikely that many are forced to take them, as they are all that is available.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #39

    so you're part of the don't change anything camp BB?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #40

    yes +1

  • moulesy
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    edited September 2018 #41

    Don't the likes of Morris Leisure make great play about "large fully serviced pitches" (I wouldn't know, we haven't stayed on any of them)? So surely the club is just "catching up" which is precisely what some folk have been saying they should do. undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2018 #42

    Steve, my point was that, if numbers of SP rise substantially, and the balance shifts the other way, there will eventually be the situation where a member would have to take an SP in order to stay on a particular site...no non serviced pitches left.

    in this case, the average price (over the year) for that member has risen as he's paying for something he doesn't want.

    at what SP percentage level this sort of thing might start to happen, we don't know..but it's certainly not an impossible, nor unlikely situation.

    of course, the club could just convert them all and put its pitch prices up all round by a fiver...

    as Rocky might say...Jobs a good unwink

  • moulesy
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    edited September 2018 #43

    I'd have thought service pitches make up less than 10% of pitches on sites, BB, so there's little chance of folk being forced to use them, especially since they seem to get booked up fairly quickly.

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2018 #44

    there is no option not to take EHU on the vast majority of sites, and now we are spending money to 'upgrade' sites where it's clear many are not interested...

    vans now come with large batteries and water tanks making the need for EHU and water on the pitch less of a priority.

    yet, despite the fact that more and more vans with these capabilities are coming onto site, the club is providing additional SPs which much of the membership doesn't need.

     

    BB

    Although a club, the CAMC is in the business of making money to pay folks wages and invest in new sites / upgrades. Why would they want to rent you a plot of land for the night for £10, when with the provision of a few services they can get £35?

     

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2018 #45

    "So the club are ploughing on up grading motor caravan points  which are only for a percentage of the membership which will be reflected in prices for allwink

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2018 #46

    Used at least 4 Morris Leisure sites not been on a serviced pitch

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #47

    'large batteries' will not power microwaves which all the new vans come with nor hair dryers nor kettles?  

    Interesting that people have noted that on CCC sites where EHU is optional all MH opt for EHU (or no one has reported seeing one without EHU) 

  • moulesy
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    edited September 2018 #48

    No, I wouldn't either. But it seems something they promote. undecided

  • mickysf
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    edited September 2018 #49

    Do any agree that some of those sites which have no toilet blocks and few facilities are amongst some of the most attractive and enjoyable sites. For many of us who have our own onboard fully serviced capacity is there a real need to up grade every pitch on every site across the network? We just adjust our stay to suit the on site provisions with little if any disruption to enjoyment at all, we can dry hair with out hair driers and cook tasty food without microwaves for a few days. We can even save money doing so!

  • peedee
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    edited September 2018 #50

    Interesting that people have noted that on CCC sites where EHU is optional all MH opt for EHU (or no one has reported seeing one without EHU.

    That is because there is no such thing as a hard standing pitch without EHU. Plenty don't bother when on grass pitches.

    peedee

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  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭
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    edited September 2018 #52

    Nor this one.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #53

    well no for one I don't agree, but I'm sure other do, they may be attractive in a scenic sense (all club sites are of course) but not enjoyable to me.

    Are they attracting enough custom for the club to think they should make more?

  • peedee
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    edited September 2018 #54

    Do any agree that some of those sites which have no toilet blocks and few facilities are amongst some of the most attractive and enjoyable sites

    I agree and there are not many I have not used in the Club's network. In fact I may have used them all at sometime at least I am hard pushed to think of one I haven't.  My first choice if it is in the right location.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2018 #55

    really PD you use CCC sites? they are just as expensive as CAMC sites?

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited September 2018 #56

    Agree completely. We've stopped at nearly every one in the network. Just wish that there were a lot more.

  • Del Sandy
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    edited September 2018 #57

    Hi All, thanks for all the posts. I have found a few clubs in the New Forest but cannot stay at any as the fully serviced pitches are full, annoyingly some only for one night. there are loads of standard pitches available!

    Cheers Derek

  • mickysf
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    edited September 2018 #58

    Then they are attractive to some of us it would seem, although implicit in this statement is that some won't agree! Thing is you can't please every one all the time and it would therefore be wrong to assume all want exactly the same 'experience' or provision! Variety is key I guess to assisting some sort of satisfaction across the wishes of all the membership.

  • obbernockle
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    edited September 2018 #59

    Buxton Site has Serviced pitches. We tried to book one. Serviced pitches on that site have grey drainage points (Wow!) but....., no water point. You get to share a water point with the neighbours. Its unbelievable that the club make such a small simple thing so complicated. They want us to pay extra for a drain with no tap?

  • peedee
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    edited September 2018 #60

    Yes I do, I have yet to stay on one dearer than an equivalent Club site. Their discounts are far better than the CMC's as well which makes some of their sites a bargain.

    peedee

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2018 #61

    You often seen that wording associated with service pitches, both on club sites and others and I think it most misleading. We have always found it to mean that there is a shared bollard with two EHU connections and two taps. The drain of couse is on each pitch, so is of course separate.