Overnight campers' action

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2018 #362

    I’ve lost the plot? 😯

    That's out of order, Rufs. Take a look at the OP for someone who’s blowing things out of all proportion. 🥺

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  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #364

    Wow!!! 2 very defensive posts from 2 of the senior key board warriors..DD i would have quoted it accurately if i could have found it easily, but this has dragged on for so long i really cannot be bothered to track back, but you know that is roughly what you implied if it was you, perhaps you could remind me.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2018 #365

    Defensive? I see them as correcting someone who definitely deserves the title he attributes to others. 

    The art of debate is somewhat lacking in certain ill thought out posts. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2018 #366

    That’s 8 year old news Rufs. It solved the problem, which was a true problem, immediately. MHs can still park up in daytime at either Marazion or Longrock, but they no longer overnight there. It was a true case of visitors taking advantage of something for nothing, to the detriment of not only local inhabitants, but also other visitors to area. Families with small children unable to access some of routes onto beach, dog walkers having to walk dogs out into road into oncoming traffic, you couldnt get between some of the vans they were so close. A bit more than a single camper van copping a late night stopover in a none residential area. Ironically, the area has dozens of lovely campsites as well, from very cheap, to all mod cons, so no excuse really.

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  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #368

    tks yes i clocked the date, I have spent some time in Cornwall & Devon but try to go out of season as i know both can be a nightmare during peak season. I just wondered what the old guy did with his unmentionables if he was there for 2 weeks frown 

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #369

    you would be  more than welcome, check out the Penguin or Bluebird greasy spoons for fab full english, oh! and Lee Tandori for a brill evening curry, pubs not great in the area, ship inn is about as good as it gets. Be sure to park to the west of town, lined out parking area on sea side of road, so you dont hinder traffic flow. Watch for the occasional OAP who will give you grief if you make too much noiselaughing  

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2018 #370

    Well, from observation of some of the said MHs down the years, ablutions such as a daily wash of person involved the sea, or occasionally the loos and showers further down in Longrock car park. Some appeared to resemble bits of old leather anyway, could have been rust, could have been dirt, hard to say. Clothed in barely more than a tight pair of grubby shorts in most cases, so laundry not much hassle. I guess the loo waste went down the loos, but it is a guess. Having encountered lots of German visitors on another beach not too far away, with nothing on but a sort of metal ring affair (think last chicken in the shop,) we didn’t bat an eyelid at most of these. Let’s just say Cornwall has “clamped down” on certain types of tourist in the area, and nowadays one is less likely to meet something resembling a set of worn out bagpipes strutting down the beach!

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2018 #371

    yes, DD, I shall also be trundling to Southdowns in a couple of weeks and have thus been very interested too....

    looks idealwink

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2018 #372

    the Exmouth 'solution' seems very sensible to me....

    some designated parking/overnighting, realistic time limit to allow folk to explore in plenty of time 

    notwithstanding fresh/grey/black water provision, it's pretty much as any town aire in France would work...

    i don't think it needs vast investment to convert half a dozen spaces in a town car park, the system to check tickets, etc is generally already in place...

    should please residents and visiting vanners....

  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2018 #373

    Let’s hope a minority don’t spoil it for the rest

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #374

    i don't think it needs vast investment to convert half a dozen spaces in a town car park, the system to check tickets, etc is generally already in place... Sorry you are not getting it, not in  my area, and this is one of the issues i outlined much much earlier, we have free parking which we cherish, if the LC were to introduce machines for MH'ers then they might just see a case for charging everybody. Gosport is different most of their car parks are fee paying and we do have an overlap in Lee on the Solent between Gosport LC and Fareham LC.     

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  • Metheven
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    edited November 2018 #376

    I am in favour of charging, charging for all. Set aside spaces for caravanners, motorhomers and cars, I shall have to put pen to paper as the council are losing out on income they can ill afford to lose, obviously the locals want something for nothing, no give but just take with no sharing, shame on them and Mr Ruffs Scrooge.frown

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  • EasyT
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    edited November 2018 #381

    Not how I have understood the actions of the Council. Parking OK for all. Residing overnight banned to all. Seems equitable to me. 

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #382

    that is rubbish why should we give up our free parking for a bunch of freeloaders....as i said earlier there is a perfectly 24x7x365 campsite, Kingfisher in our immediate area, not outside, immediate, use it 

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #383

    that is rubbish why should we give up our free parking for a bunch of freeloaders....as i said earlier there is a perfectly 24x7x365 campsite, Kingfisher in our immediate area, not outside, immediate, use it

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2018 #384

    Unless an area is struggling to attract visitors all parking in all areas should be restricted by hours or charged for as many hours (per hour) including overnight for the stay and that is for all vehicles and as is now being implemented more often blue badge holders

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2018 #385

    You seemed to stutter there, Rufs. wink

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #386

    look at what happens when you let a bunch of free loaders loose yell

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #387

    Oh!!! and more

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2018 #388

    This is getting good now. 

    Popcorn, anyone? 😀

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2018 #389

    You’ll know the beach Tinny, St Ives Bay. Lots of sand dunes between rail track and the beach. A stroll through the dunes was a real eye opener in the Summer. Naked men everywhere, they would “pop up” unexpectedly from behind grassy tussocks. Never a problem for us, we sent the Airedale’s in first, cue lots of swearing and a mad dash for clothes. We used to call them poppers, not true naturists, a bit different if you get my drift. wink Occasionally one would strut down the beach, not a stitch on, but once the cold water hit they weren’t quite so full of themselves. We did get one who wanted his photo taking with our dogs. Probably made that month’s Centre spread!surprisedcool

    You would get the odd camper van down at Dynamite Quay when you could still park down there, overlooking those cabins in the dunes across the river. But it was never taken over, just the odd one or two.

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2018 #390

    I wouldn't object to a 'cars free, MH overnight £X' policy...

    im more than happy to pay the going rate to overnight in my van...yes, I mainly use free Parkings but to be in (say) exmouth (which we like) for a couple of nights and we'd happily pay a sensible rate.

    perhaps Rufs (and his towns folk) could keep their free parking yet still accommodate paying MHs, in tandem...

    having said that, this is totally the opposite to many of the car parks 'over there'....(of course)... where charging (for all vehicles) is levied during the daytime where spaces are in demand, and then charges are relaxed after (say)7pm through to 9am when there's virtually no one around..

     

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2018 #391

    Obviously on the defensive again as no constructive comment to make, I dont know what makes some MH'ers think they have the right to park just about anywhere and dictate what local policy should be in a local area for which they contribute nothing. Oh sorry as I think somebody else referred to "you have been reading the glossy brochures re living the good life in your expensive castles on wheels" but now you are finding the good life more and more difficult to find,  unless you pay, which some of you seem very reluctant to do.