Arrival times. Even the club get it wrong!

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  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2018 #182

    So what do you mean by that?  All information I have given is true so I think you need to retract this now!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #183

    yes was just offering some possible solutions. Perhaps the club looks at 'flow rates' and decides from them? 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2018 #184

    WTG

    My comments were directed at the contents of the original post in this thread which questioned why one specific site had changed its arrival time. Now it seems from people who have posted having asked the question on the actual site that the reason for this change was because of congestion with people leaving and arriving at the same time. I do appreciated that these debates do tend to go off at a tangent but one does have to question the relevance of bringing into the discussion what might happen on sites in different countries. Had this been a general discussing on arrival times then perhaps there might have been a place for what happens elsewhere to come into the discussion when trying to establish best practise. 

    David

     

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #185

    As posted before, all leisure industry companies have a requested arrival time,which is normally if ,circumstances permit,"flexible"as is also the cc sites,  but when an organisation has numerous sites in very varied areas and locations all with different access and popularity "problems"then it gets into the situations you and brue have noted and another that i posted earlier which seems is "difficult" for some to understand, and then complain that they let me on at this time at ++++ site why not here?that a curtacy call if needing to arr earlier than the requested time, would have eliminated

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #186

    Ok fine, aggressive, asking you a question? well OK sorry I didn't realise that was a touchy subject. It would have useful to know your view but I suppose we'll have to surmisesmile

    Have a great day, I am - I'm off to a site

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #187

    never empty but a certain fraction of full may make the early arrival time work there? Would the same system work at a honeypot site?

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #189

    As I consider all experience gained from camping (wherever it is carried out) to be of value, the reactions intrigue me.

    That is fine Way2go. I don't necessarily agree. If most sites in UK operated on 'any time after 10am or 11am' it might be different. In that case I would be off my pitch just after 9am and before 9.30 to travel to the next site. The fact is though that of the 21 sites used this year 10 of them have been 1pm arrival and so departure times for me have been delayed accordingly. Those like myself that would happily head for the next site to arrive early are unable to much of the time. This has a knock on effect with me having to leave later. I doubt that I am alone in this.

    There is also the situation with regard to staffing levels and reception manning on many CC sites.  

  • brue
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    edited October 2018 #190

    I've also read on here that when Hillhead is very busy early arrivals are allowed in, haven't ever tested this but flexibility must be the key at some of these places. 

    I can quite understand fixed times at small sites where the office has to close for wardens to do their duties. I can only think that non club sites where payments are upfront and pitches chosen or allocated might have room for manoeuvre with times. A bit like Orkney where you can arrive from a late night ferry equipped with a gate code and pitch number, I expect this goes on at a lot of sites close to ferries. On the other hand some sites are firmly closed for the lunch hour. So I don't suppose an overall standardised system can ever be reached. smile

     

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #192

    ...because it's irrelevant...

    I consider it relevant. You cannot fill a site faster than it empties. Those going to another site, such as me, hang around to suit arrival times on the next site. Read my earlier post if interested. If mot - no matter

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #195

    the most vans I've ever seen 'waiting' (always inside the barrier) is about four.....no-one driving around the site either.....after all, who wants caravans and MH circling the site repeatedly?....

    I rarely see more than that on any CC site that I use.

  • Randomcamper
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    edited October 2018 #196

    And that's your idea of a holiday.......?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #197

    BB I really don't know what you are on about with the CC having to do the same as CCC in Scotland?

    You do realise that it is only the Edinburgh club site out of the 25 + club sites in Scotland has a different arrival time than the others? All the others it's 12?  

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #199

    I have been on many CC sites BB and usually between 12 and 12.15. In over 150 site visits in the last 10 years I can only recall 3 occasions when I have not been able to clear the highway immediately. Once each at Southport, Forfar and Melrose. Probably like yourself 'over there' I miss school holidays mainly

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #201

    Two, me and Fliss!

     

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2018 #203

    Been a steady stream this afternoon here, a few like me setting up camp with the camp followers coming later. Spoke to the warden on arrival and it will get busy tonight with the half term starting tonight.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #204

    The only times i have seen big queues at a cc site was in the past at Ferry Meadows on most friday nights in the summer,when it was not unusual for the arrivals to be backed up to and beyond the level crossingsurprised  have not encountered any big queues at  many other sites and they have been "managed"by the site staff

    That was before the computerised booking system which has made booking in much faster

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2018 #205

    To muddy the waters yet further....I've recently returned from a stay on a C&CC site where I noticed a "all departures by 12 today" sign which struck me as strange as there were probably between 20-25% empty pitches. It seems that flexibility is not in the lexicon of campsite operators or at least not "over 'ere".

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #207

    Yes,as one hat does not fit all as most seem to accept

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2018 #208

    The majority of cc sites seem to be very flexible with dep times if they can as noted when reading messages on notices close to offices,w/ends especially

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2018 #209

    "this week we've been at a smallish (30 pitches?) site in Exmouth, arrival time 2 o clock, I think.....again, a quick call and we were able to get there at 12, "

    A plus mark to that UK site then for being "flexible" enough to let you on (earlier than normal) at midday,  but a rather ironic comment surely,  given your dislike of the club site standard arrival time of .... er .... midday! laughing

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2018 #210

    Yes some of the commercial sites will permit 12pm arrival. The CC already does on the vast majority of its sites however.

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