Club rules outdated
Comments
-
No but it would need to be these days, under supervision, ie the site office ,one has just recently been installed in our local coop and has had to be move from its position near the rear of the store to within view of the till positions because of( as noted on the cctv store cameras ) people attempting to "abuse" it after "faults appeared"
0 -
There always seems to be a negative reply when a positive idea is put forward
, what's wrong with a covered type area ,even a covered BBQ area to bring members together, ... on hang on we're talking club sites where everyone sits in there vans watching what everyone else is doing 
1 -
Not like you to make that sort of carping comment HD - others are usually much quicker of the mark!
But I do agree with Jay's suggestion. It reminded me of the last commercial site we stayed on last year up near Grassington which had a hot drinks machine just outside reception and it was very well used. I'd have thought that with Coca-Cola having taken over Costa there might be scope for the addition of such a drinks dispenser on club sites.
0 -
I have a camper van and am also subject to the pitching rules. We spoke with the warden at York's Rowntree Park and it's purely the fire regs, which I'm ok with. On the subject of speed limits, we were at Rowntree Park just after the child died in an accident there and the member involved was not speeding. So just because you have dumped the caravan or are off to your next site, doesn't mean that you exceed 5mph. Litigation for those that speed and cause problems will cripple the club, so just slow down.
1 -
Following on from the sort-of discussion about rules, and whether anybody should be obeying them, we should remember that children are always watching and learning. They learn by doing, but also by seeing what others do.
I would hope that the learning at a Caravan Club site would be to follow one-way systems, obey speed limits, etc. This is because, if the learning (by doing or observing) is that there is no need to do so, then the children will apply that other learning in the "real" world where the speeds and dangers are much greater. A caravan site should be a place with very much reduced risk where good practices can be instilled.
It is very difficult to reverse learning at a later time once it has been "ingrained".
6 -
or he's an unhappy chap from down under?
0 -
not what you said MM at all (call a spade a spade?)
Blah blah blah ...... I bet you were a ball at the front of your maths class
but moving on I would give any of your replies the respect they deserve (even if long winded or I disagreed), I would argue perhaps the point you made but I would most certainly not link that to any part of your job or even imply that I would not like to be working with you or anything to do with your job or whatever, it has no relevance and is also common courtesy really. End of.
0 -
you tell me, you're the expert
1 -
Jay, nice to hear a real life comment....our kids are long gone teenagers, though both son and SIL would still play footbal or use gym equipment...
on our last overseas site, an area had been converted into an open air 'gym'.(around 8 pieces of kit) ...OH and I used it most mornings before breakfast, quite invigorating....felt pretty good on it....
I'll definitely need one after this latest round of 'all inclusive'
0 -
that's pretty sad reading....
have a listen to Roger Waters' Amused to Death.....
0 -
Nah, I’m still learning from you on that one, BB. 🤪
0 -
hardly, I had you down as a grand master in nit picking.
2 -
Wow. 110 posts in a day. How can anyone summarise that lot?
Rules are rules. If you don't like them protest to the CMC officially with a rounded case for making a change. Surely even they will listen to valid reasoning (won't they)? If you want to park any-old-how, find a CL with a decent sized field. Please do not allow your children to cycle the wrong way around a one-way system. If you want an abundance of activities for your teenage children then find a site that accommodates that e.g. Haven or one of the myriad of independent 'have everything' sites. Personally my children are adults so I do not need to, nor do I want to go to those types of site any more. Don't expect the CMC to be' all things to all men' (sorry, people). That's it for now. For GS.
4 -
I thought that the OPs comment about the CAMC ‘trying to appeal to the retired generation’ is spot on, and ultimately their business decision. It’s the path the club has chosen to follow, and with an overwhelmingly older membership it works..... however, I’m not sure that in 15 years time it will still be relevant to what the next generation will want.
There is a difference between rules and style / appeal, but many negative people on here are lumping everything together. Safety spacing is a rule, and is there for good reason. Suggesting the club provides better play areas and spaces, aimed at a wider age group of kids is aimed at the style of the site, not its rules, and I don’t see anything wrong with people suggesting other options.
It seems to me that giving kids places to get together, with covered areas, ball courts, vending machines etc is a good idea IMHO. Rookesbury Park is a CAMC site that has a big field with a few amenities, and I think it works well.
1 -
You fell for that one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 -
"It seems to me that giving kids places to get together, with covered areas, ball courts, vending machines etc is a good idea IMHO. Rookesbury Park is a CAMC site that has a big field with a few amenities, and I think it works well."
I don't know that particular site, but, yes, in general I agree with that.
0 -
That’s because it’s not the right facility to appeal to young site users.
This is why I suggested that observation and perhaps some focused market research might help the club. It’s no good trying to replicate a youth club of yesteryear. They were unappealing when I was a teenager many years ago and they are no more appealing nowadays.
We currently have tourer explorer sites which might occupy a 7 year old for an hour or so on the one hand and on the other we are seeing play areas removed to provide service pitches.
It’s not really telling families they are welcome. Perhaps they aren’t
1 -
Up to the age of eight children tend to scream and that does my hearing aid in, turn it off and it's much better.
Over the age of eight and electronic devices are all that they are interested in.
In both cases parents are happy to leave them to their own devices instead of interacting to make their stay enjoyable. If there are no facilities on site then include them on days out.
I only see a site as a location to come back to at the end of the day, the excitement is elsewhere and off site.
1 -
yes fully agree with you. We saw a site not as a 'resort' but simply a base to see the local area and target attractions and places to visit that they were interested in. It worked well and the end of the day after driving (and paying) and cooking for them they had to find their own amusements.
0 -
What's wrong with just going back to your van, which is of course on site, and making your own coffee there, and not lining the pockets of some giant corporation with their exorbitant prices?
1 -
Nothing at all but it was raised as a suggestion as being something for teenagers and I think it’s a good idea. Teenagers spend a lot of time in coffee shops, it’s a safe place to meet their friends and have a chat.
I know from my own observation of the glares my two got when they dared to walk for a shower that there’s a percentage of site users that don’t much like teenagers. Creating a space that will draw youngsters in will create a focus for them. It may even generate some revenue.
When I was a kid we were out all day in the school holidays and only returned for meals. My dad’s childhood was the same. When I was on CC sites as a child we’d get back from a day out and be off with our new friends before the engine had been turned off. I think the level of tolerance of families using club sites has diminished since then
0
