Club rules outdated

moulesy

Ooh! Is that the "provocative" go elsewhere suggestion you're making there, K?  Well, that's you, me and Corners in agreement then! 

Cornersteady

+1

moulesy

Is that Cirencester, Steve? Are you on your seasonal pitch there yet? 

Oneputt

I wouldn’t want my grandchildren to cycle the wrong way down a public one way street so why shouldn’t the club look to the safety of everyone, including children and motorists on site.

Rocky 2 buckets

Steady now Teach you’re heading towards a naughty collective noun😤😂

viatorem

There are plenty of sites available with family orientated activity areas and entertainment, admittedly most are outside the club network. However when our kids were young we often took advantage of centre rallies that were held on commercial sites with this type of facility, often at a reasonable discount from standard rates. Looks like this still happens also Many C&CC THS's are on commercial sites.

If you doubt the need for rules try camping at a festival. 

Kennine

Steady on Buckets,----- you've already mentioned the collective naughty noun. I won't repeat it, but the first letter is a "T" 

K 

mickysf

Are we talking about the 'must' rules or the 'should' rules. The ones which must be followed or those which have a degree of common sense warden discretion built into them? You know, like the one which state something like, '.....please check with site staff",

EmilysDad

Not even remotely the same thing. 

Tinwheeler

Road, bike, car, one way - it seems pretty much the same to me, MM

mickysf

Same way as me!

JVB66

Cirencester again

Mitsi Fendt

It appears that there is no such thing as one size fits all when it comes to camp sites. Surely we all choose what suits us the best. Personally I prefer a CL There is plenty of choice out there.

alfigone

If you want an example of why it's not a good idea to cycle the wrong way, regardless of how quickly you think you can stop suggest you watch the following video. 

EmilysDad

You're suggesting that a site road is the same as a road through a town centre. The site road has a limit of just 5mph ... the town centre road doesn't. The site road can be expected to have kids playing on it & people wander round with Aquaroll etc .... the town centre road doesn't. 

If you were pitched at 7 o'clock on a site's circular road & the exit was at 6 o'clock,  would you honestly expect a child or anyone else to cycle all the way round in a clockwise manner to leave the site? That'll never happen will it ....

JVB66

If that was a "problem?" then walk the cycle to the gate as most responsible people would do,to set an example rather than condone it,and i am sure it would be the driver of the car/motor caravan who was blamed if a child or adult? was hit by the vehicle,

ps sorry forgot the speed some drive on site

pps the rules of the road still apply on private land unless otherwise "advised"and in the case of an accident can be used as evidence if a case went to court

EmilysDad

But the video is SFA to do with one way systems  .... is there a one way sign? ... it's more to do with the hedge needing reducing in height or removing to give a view round the corner.

JVB66

 Oh dear ,it looks like a "over there" and the cyclist is on the Wrong side of the road ,and how low should the hedge be when so many complain about lack of hedges

EmilysDad

I thought that in the main we're talking of kids playing ....

EmilysDad

Which bit?

JVB66

On cycles? as well 

Tinwheeler

But you raised the issue of 6/7 o'clock and getting to the exit. That’s something other than kids playing.

Road, bike, car, one way - the same common sense issue apply no matter where that road is, nor what the speed limit is, nor whether it’s an aqua roll or a pram being pushed.

EmilysDad

I disagree. 

Let kids be kids .... and let them play. There's a life time ahead for following rulz to the n'th degree.

Tinwheeler

Even if they do end up having a serious accident. Good idea 

Cornersteady

well hopefully they will if they don't have a serious accident on site hitting an on coming car.

You are probably trying to 'get a bite' but on such a serious matter I cannot believe you are advocating such a dangerous idea. We are not talking about bending a rule that will cause a skinned knee, or letting kids play their games we are talking about a child at 5mph+ hitting an oncoming car or motorhome car at 5mph (or faster). Do the change of momentum maths and work out who will come out worse off.

The thing is that children will be children and thinking its safe will not look where they are going and perhaps come out from behind whatever straight into a car. Just saying as you have done that you drive 'slow enough' will not stop you (heaven forbid) hitting that child if there are only seconds to spare and you haven't seen them.

I am all for letting children be children but not going down a site road the wrong way is just one simple rule they have to learn to abide by.

I mean it's not particularity onerous is it and could save a life, or a trip to hospital, or at the very best lots of tears on both sides of the steering wheel?

EmilysDad

Of all the CC sites I've been on, the road around or through the site has been open enough to be able to far enough to avoid a child playing on his/her bike whether he/she is cycling to the rules or not. 

I used the exit at 6 o'clock as an example .... it could just as easily been a friends caravan or play ground. 

JVB66

So basicaly what you are saying you are not really bothered because it does not matter to you as you pick and chose what you would obey, despite the possible concequenses ,and what others would obey is up to them 

Cornersteady

and what about shooting out from the other side of a van, ie hidden from what you can see and then on towards you? being chased perhaps by their mates?

What distance is that from van to site road on most sites - two meters or so? 5 mph is about 2.2 meters per second, if you're travelling at 5mph that's a closing speed of 10mph or 4.4 meters per second. In one second they will right in front of you and at 5mph your car has a stopping distance of about 6 feet or 2 meters.

Going around the wrong way increases the chances of not being able to stop, so is asking kids not to cycle the wrong way really too much for you? You still think that risk is alright to chance?

Philnffc

People are aware a child was killed on this site about four years ago after being hit by a car and that is why the rule for bikes to go one way is In force.

 

Phil

Tinwheeler

I thought the one way system applied to bikes on all sites. 🤔