Club sites too expensive
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how does a wardens 14 hr shift (reported last week or so ago) fit in with WTD.
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In general these are smaller family run ones which can operate without the clubs overheads and as they are family they can often avoid the Working Time Regulations and give themselves an advantage that way
I am largely in agreement with you WW but .I'm glad you said in general WW because that is not always the case and even if it was some are excellently run and the Club still has to compete with them.
I don't know about other motorhome owners but I am happy to risk standards. If I don't like the facilities I can use my own or in the worst case, move on easily enough. Caravan owners are more likely to stay longer and might not be so inclined and probably chose their sites with more care.in the first place. Club sites and their uniformity are comforting in such circumstances.
As a rule, higher priced commercial sites usually have more to offer but there are some pretty good cheaper ones out there if you do your homework.
peedee
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16 pages of why some people think that club sites are too expensive, and others that think they are not
Realistically, as the "club" is a business, and run along business lines, what do you think are the chances of what has been discussed here, having any impact on site fees. I would suggest very little.
So, is this 'thread' more about picking holes in each others reasoning, for the entertainment value?. Because the club, is not going to reduce its site fees, because some consider them too high.
There is no mandate to join the club, nor use its sites, but thousands do, and I guess will continue to do so.
While this is happening, the holder of the "club's purse", will see no reason to change from the 'status quo'
We may all be club members, but we are not compelled to use the club's sites. In fact from what read, many don't. preferring to stick to using CLs.
Although we have now returned to caravanning, albeit this time with a mho, it will not be our primary means of holidaying, as we usually go on a couple of cruises each year, or fly off somewhere.
As such, we will likely not spend as many nights camping, as will many of you, so the site fees don't represent a significant issue to us.
If I were to spend several weeks of the year, using camp sites, then I would probably look more closely, at what I was getting for my money.
As it is, I will be using club sites, as and when the need arises.
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Dave, this is at least the 25th repeat of this topic and it doesn't take a genius to work out that the next episode will be along soon.
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I thought JK was joking.
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Dave - you should have been around 18 months or so ago. There was one member of the forum (no longer here) continually complaining about the price of club sites and the woeful facilities - he knew because he was a regular user of club sites!
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did you?
however, you think a lot of things are funny, that aren't
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FYI BB, the WTD clearly states that contracted hours for the likes of us, the campsite workers are to be averaged over 26 weeks which differs from the normal workplace. We all understand and accept that. At times a long day is to be had. The site warden is responsible for the daily work rosta and will adjust hour to suit in the not so busy times. It's a proven system that works.
Now school hol's are all but over, I'm on an easy 10 hour shift this week!
Glad to be of helpNot quite sure what all this has got to do with the price of sites though???
JK
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Not joking at all TW
JK
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Thanks for the info, JK. 👍🏻
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Ah, I learn something new here everyday
As the 'new boy on the block', so to speak, I was not aware of the multiple previous episodes.
I'm not saying that I consider the site fees to be too expensive or not, because having been out of caravanning for a few years, I have nothing to compare them with. However, I'm fairly confident that what has been said here, will change nothing.
During the 20 years that we caravanned, we did not use commercial sites, because we had no interest, in swimming pools, club houses (Bars), or entertainment.
The club sites were purely a 'base camp', where after a busy day out and about, we could relax in peace and quiet (hopefully, that will still be the case
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I didn't. This may well be the 25th time this subject has been raised. To me it shows an increasing number are finding price is an issue. To me some of the Club's sites are expensive but pitches are still being filled so why should the Club make any changes to these. On the other hand there are underused sites which do need change to attract more users. The easiest change to make is on price either on fees or offers.
peedee
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jk thank you....
I posted in response to WW who suggested that a key reason other sites could be cheaper was because their staff (perhaps family??) weren't subject to WTD....
i therefore immediately thought of your heroic efforts of last week and wondered how CC bypassed them too....
i pulled many a double shift years ago....aapart for getting paid extra, no one gave a monkeys...
then my job became a bit more serious 'as many hours as it takes to ......'....this time, I didn't get paid extra but again, no one gave a monkeys as long as the dept ran ok and customers (shops) , consumers (website) and HO staff (reports, tools etc) all got their IT services all day every day....
anyway, thanks for the update.....(and for updating TW)
.take a break, chap
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It is very apparent from Rowena's occasional appearance on the forum, that head office, or at least Rowena, monitors what is being discussed here.
As such, if the subject of site fees has apparently been raised multiple times on the forum, has there ever been any feedback/input from HQ, relating to these discussions?
I suspect the answer is no, and as such I think answers the question, "is anything likely to change".
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PD, you know as well as I do that only a very tiny proportion of the membership posts on here and, of those who do, not all are saying sites are too expensive and in the many threads on the subject it tends to be the same few posting.
Therefore, I don’t believe price is an increasing issue and it’s certainly not something the club is going to develop apoplexy over in terms of what is said on here.
Underused sites, if there are any, may well be due to issues other than price and the club will no doubt be aware and be dealing with any rectification needed.
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They don’t monitor that much, Dave. Many's the time people have clamoured for staff input and nothing happens so I wouldn’t expect any response. I’m told it’s very different if you post on the Facebook page.
Have you ever looked at the list of staff mods and their areas of expertise listed in Introductions? Seen any on here lately? They don’t even update the section now.
Edit: it looks like the sticky of staff mods in Introductions has gone.
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Not true as a site that is not always full ,is probably in an area that "needs" a site to give the variety of places that members over the years have come to expect of the cc and as with all successful buisineses can absorb some less "productive" outlets
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You're welcome BB.
No heroic efforts from me though, just doing what is a very satisfying and rewarding role. Swings and roundabouts and all that
Take a break will be on the 9th of November, back to Spain and 4 months of improving the waistline in my plush new RV
JK
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Thing is PD there are a few sites t(not many) that "don't pay", but we have to maintain a network.
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But you don’t run the club, PD.
If JV is correct, it proves the club is more than just a money making machine and thinks of its members as well as the bottom line.
Edit: cross posted, JK.
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