Club sites too expensive

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  • Unknown
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    edited August 2018 #92
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  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2018 #93

    At least your post has got the discussion back on track rather than focussing on the particular merits of a single club site. wink

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #94

    It is difficult to consider how expensive club sites are (relatively) without looking at individual instances and similar site alternatives

  • dmiller555
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    edited August 2018 #95

    Perhaps the "Club" should offer "Members" a 25% discount on published fees to make it worthwhile belonging to a "Club".

     

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2018 #96

    The current discount works out at over 30%, based on two adults, even at peak prices. In the winter it is over 70%😀

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2018 #97

    You need to read earlier posts to understand mine, AD. I was responding to et specifically about Woodovis and it's booking terms and conditions  - I have no personal interest in the ACSI scheme because I'm not going to be using European sites and in the UK I use mainly CLS which work out cheaper anyway.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #98

    You already get a "discount" of £12 a night being a member on all club siteswink

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #99

    I've just booked 15 nights next July in Cornwall. I was going to stay at Bingham Grange, the cost being £417 for the two of us.

    However, the same 15 nights at Godrevy is £369, a saving of £48 (which will be spent on fish & chip suppers)

    At £24.60 per night, in July, for two of us, with the usual Club facilities - do I think the Club sites are getting expensive? Yes I do, but then have you bought any carrots recently? 😉

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #100

    “(which will be spent on fish & chip suppers)“

    And Philps pasties👍🏻

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited August 2018 #101

    just for perspective.....

    we went to that Haven site a couple of springs ago....2nd week of opening, no hoards at that time....site almost deserted....

    a fully serviced Euro HS pitch, all brand new, well away from the 'activities' (in fact it was like a small separate site), full solar heated showers and loo block at £6 a night...

    the 'Haven' model does have very wide variations in price and occupancy levels, but at that time, the weather was great, the place was deserted but the facilities were open...

    certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but the actual 'site' was far more modern, clean and user friendly than many a CC site we've been on.

    we haven't used Haven since then (for whatever reason) and we would never consider it in anything like peak....but out of season, it can be an good option for some.

    just a point on ACSI....as David says it's a one off membership card and  looking at the site ET mentioned, the cost is recouped day one...

    the other point is that generally there are very few non use peak periods, meaning the discount is in operation for the most part of the opening period, whereas with the club finding a date that doesn't attract some sort of premium (BH, school holiday, weekend .....) is tricky...

    whether club sites are 'expensive' or 'value for money' is , like most things, down to the customer, but the most common 'issue' raised on this thread seems to be the lenght of the peak season amount of other 'premium' price brackets.....

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2018 #102

    but only useful if you want to go to Europe?  and pay for all the costs of travel and fuel. Otherwise what advantage does it have?

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2018 #103

    Can you book and claim ACSI rates?

     As although I was happy enough turning up on spec over there. Booking is often necessary over here.😀

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #104

    here's ETs earlier helpful post...

    "This Club will sell you an ACSI Camping Card for £10.49 plus postage. More UK tourists should get one as there are 39 other good quality UK campsites on their list as well as Woodovis which I mentioned - and no Club sites have the facilities which that one offers"

    if a site is in the scheme then it has to honour the conditions..those are clear....what you get for the discounted price and what periods are covered.

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2018 #105

    From what I can make out, and I've now looked at a few sites, the ACSI scheme, as far as the UK is concerned is mainly centred on all singing, all dancing holiday park sites  (full fat sites in common parlance,  I believe wink). Those aren't sites I'd choose to use hence my lack of (personal) interest.

    I tend to use club sites pre Easter and then October/November time. Very often it's just me and one dog. Club sitest almost always work out the cheapest option then.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #106

    Anybody can "cherry pick" what they post to make it sound "better" than what seems the majority of satisfied site users in the UK "( please note") want and as the exchange rate in the UK is good (and may get better?) for overseas visitors,less than 40 sites that accept ACSI cards to compensate for their normal very high prices,then i do think there are going to be as many coming here as there used to be going "over there" who are now on "staycations"

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2018 #107

    I suggest you read M's post, no advantage if the sites offered are too expensive?

    Dohundecided

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2018 #108

    +1 and full fat prices to match no doubt? Again not comparing like with like.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #109

    And on less that 40 sites (all top priced)

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #110

    ..but they're not....read ETs post....Dohundecided

    certainly not more expensive for you (or the majority of members) ....you don't camp on your own or just with your dog? do you?......

    no, thought not.....Doh (II)  wink

     why do you see this type of thread as criticism of the club, it's just observational about occupancy, yet here we have the inevitible reaction which seeks to discredit the poster (Peedee's turn in the barrel) or disprove or dismiss an observation so as to redress the balance and end the thread with the club's 'reputation' intact.

    it matters not whether the thread is about dogs, kids, ball games, arrival times, occupancy rates, prices....whatever....any thread which dares to suggest all is not well in clubland gets pounced on in the same way...

    i wonder why it's so important to constantly defend to the hilt in this way...

    the posts from some (not allowed to say who) posters are like night following day......

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2018 #111

    +1 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2018 #112

    the unhappy face was for the use of your Doh (hence italics and question mark) in replying to my first civil post.

    I would say there is no advanatge in the scheme at all and can be discounted

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #113

    but they're not, with an ACSI card, that's the point of it....DOHwink

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #114

    no, it's the site prices that are discountedwink

    why is there no advantage in a scheme that charges €19 or less when it might be £25-£35 without the card?

    the scheme does exactly the same here as it does all over Europe, save folk money....

    your CC membership gets you £12 discount of CC sites....would you consider not being a member yet visiting the same sites?

    ...or are you saying its of no interest because you 'only do club sites"? 

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #115

    We are  always told that sites are better and cheaper over there.  What they frequently forget to mention is the cheap price is ‘out o& season’.  In high season which is usually the only time we can travel site prices can be anywhere from €30t to over €50 plus electric.  Yes most sites have pools and cafe’s which is great if you don’t mind tiny pitches crammed in like sardines.

  • OnlyJen
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    edited August 2018 #116

    IMO ACSI is a very useful scheme, and a nice handbook, all site descriptions accompanied by what is generally a truly miserable looking face of the  site inspector laughing

    Brilliant for the continental mainland, limited for the UK, although there is one site in the UK that I do use In winter, near Cambridge and a good alternative to both club sites.

    It is just another camping tool, same as my Britstop handbook and various other bits of clutter that I cart around.

    To argue it offers better or less or mostly the same value as a club site is impossible almost as we each make our own minds up as to what we want at any given time. It's just a tool.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #117

    B Boy  Now lets see, A discount card  that you have to buy first what is there to understand?,and only valid on normally high priced sites,undecided

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #118

    That’s strange, BB. I’m just catching up with this thread and it never struck me that there was any defence or criticism of the club but a debate ensuing as to costs and comparisons of club and commercial sites and prices. Even the OP did Not make a statement as such but posed a question. 

    I wonder why you see threads such as this as being partisan when clearly they are not?

    Anyway, even if people choose to avidly defend the club, it’s as much their right to do so as it is others’ to constantly criticise.

     

     

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #119

    to quote the oft use 'club advice', don't go then, if it's that bad...undecided

    those peak prices you mention are no different to the club's peak prices and here we have many, many more peak weeks.

    club prices have peaks of some sort for many more days/weeks that a typical foreign site.

    here, any holiday (of whatever significance) is seen as the catalyst to raise prices.....and it will usually be for the whole week before and the week after.....

    with a number of 'holidays' scattered around the year, that's a fair chunk of fortnights that get hiked.....meaning there are very many peak weeks.

     

     

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2018 #120

    I've had a look at ACSI scheme. Once we are back up and touring full throttle, some of the discounted sites in U.K. might work for us. Lot are in Cornwall, so we have passed them, or walked round them. It's another pay to access discounts scheme, no doubt great if you tour Europe. Similar to Club Sites, expensive at certain times of year, cheap in the quieter periods. Some are Hoseasons Sites, such as Woodovis.

    No one can compare the value of pitch choice for someone else. It's simply what suits them at that particular time. Sometimes it's Club, sometimes CL, sometimes AN Other.......laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #121

    We do not,  as with the increasing thousands of others in the UK and increasing numbers from "over there" the idea of Knowing that the product you are looking at staying  is normally of a consistant high standard,why would most need to go elsewhere ,but as one or two like to try to "point out?" there are one or two sites in the UK that they consider better,normally higher priced, but then to encourage use of such sites, they then off peak need to sell pitches at loss leader prices or use a discount card