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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #32

    Seems a strange move to me given that had it not been for the reliability of Renault engines Red Bull would have been in the mix for the Constructors Championship at least! The guys at Red Bull were shocked, particularly as it seems a backward move. I suspect it was down to money and an unwillingness to match the pay of Max despite Daniel having more points this season and last. I suppose it feasible that Renault hope to have significant improvements for next year and want a driver who will be in the mix rather than mid table. Renault have won championships in the past. Another thing in the mix is the complete breakdown of the relationship between Renault and Red Bull over the last couple of years, perhaps Renault see this as getting their own back!!! He is a likeable chap so I hope he does well.

    David

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #33

    RBR are third in the championship with Renault one place behind. As a racing team are in their 3 year.  There is no doubt that Renault have ambition and I suspect RBR/Honda will struggle for a couple of years. Although RBR probably currently have the best areo package with future rule changes that could/may change.  With the Hulk and Daniel I’m sure point scoring will raise significantly 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #34

    Renault might be one place behind but that 4th place is a long way back from 3rd. Currently Red Bull are on 223 points and Renault on 82 points which is only 16 points ahead of Haas. So even with Daniel they have a long way to climb. The is no doubt that the Renault engine is good when it's reliable but reliability is the big question mark. What will be even more interesting is how the Honda engine does. There have been some encouraging signs from the Toro Rosso especially Pierre Gasly and it will be interesting to see if he steps up to the senior team next year?

    David

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #35

    So Fernando Alonso has decided to retire from F1 at the end of the season.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #36

    I was just wondering who is next in line age wise?

    David

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2018 #37

    Kimi, he gives the impression that he could walk away at any moment 

    he has had a test drive in the Toyota world rally car ,so he could go there 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #38

    Forgot about Kimi, if he left as well it could open up the driver market!

    David

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #39

    Looks like Kimi will sign a 2 year contract with Ferrari  very shortly.  He has driven pretty well this year 

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #40

    Looks as though Carlos Sainz will be heading for McClaren

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #41

    I just wish Aston Martin would produce a world-beating engine and stick it in a Williams

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #42

    I think it's very difficult to become a new player in F1 engines. The list of companies that have pulled of of this sector is quite long with a lot of famous names. Even Cosworth no longer produce F1 engines prefering to concentrate of the USA series. There have been rumours for years that the VW group might be interested but nothing has come of it.  Poor Williams seem to have lost their way. Perhaps time for the family have a bit more distance from the day to day running?

    David

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #43

    You could be right David but I also believe they need an experienced older driver who can act in a development role as well.

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #44

    So, Ricardo to Williams with a brand new A.M. engine and an F1 Championship next year! You heard it here first 😉

    Looking forward to Spa this weekend and hopefully another exciting race

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #45

    Thought Riccardo had signed for Renault for the next couple of years and surely AM are in partnership with RBR.

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #46

    Yes One, just my wishful thinking 😀

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #47

    Oh I didn’t suss that outsurprised

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #48

    So, Alonso and Riccardo to be replaced by Sainz and Gasly respectively, at the end of the season. My money is on LeClerc for a 'big named seat' in the not too distant.

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #49

    Great win by Seb, pity about Kimi

  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2018 #50

    Apart from a spectacular bit of mayhem on the first corner, a rather boring race.

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #51

    Agree Cyber and it seems to becoming a regular occurrence. The only interesting part of many races this season seems to have been the first 10 minutes-then yawnsville til the chequered flag 🏁

  • ocsid
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    edited August 2018 #52

    It was however technically intriguing how Ferrari have contrived to inject so much more "go" into their car?

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #53

    They did indeed seem to have found extra h.p. from somewhere 

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #54

    With the start of the new hybrid engines Mercedes were at. least 1.5 to 2 seconds ahead of all the other teams.  In the last 4 years the other teams have gradually been catching up.  RBR has by far the best chassis and aero package but probably the least powerful engine and they are about 3 tenths behind.  Ferrari have now got the horsepower but have probably got better areo. If people think Ferrari are cheating why not come out and say.

    Ross Brawn didn’t cheat with the double diffuser his team just came up with a different solution.  The FIA eventually banned it as not being in the spirit of the regulations which is not cheating. Innovation has always happened in F1 and long may that continue.

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #55

    I didn't know Ferrari had been accused of cheating? Seems they spent the summer break in the garage rather than on the beaches! Well done to them. Let's see how long before the others catch up (well, Mercedes at least)

    F1 developing into a two-horse race again and frankly it's boring. The only real excitement has been on the odd occasion RBR has managed to get involved on the podium. If they ditch the British & German GP's I shall not bother taking any further interest, especially if they keep the same funding system in place.

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #56

    Why did Mercedes protest earlier in the year about twin batteries and in Spa Hamilton referred to some trick things on the Ferrari 

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #57

    I don't know One, perhaps it was sour grapes on Hamilton's part? He's very prone to whinging as we all know. Rattles, throw and pram come to mind?!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2018 #58

    I was expecting a boring race dominated by the faster Ferrari's. What a surprise.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited September 2018 #59

    Well done Lewis, keep those red devils in their place and your foot on Sebastian’s neck.

  • Extugger
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    edited September 2018 #60

    Interesting to hear Nico Rosberg's take on the first lap 'racing incident' between Hamilton and Vettel (some might argue he was biased towards Mercedes?) and I have to agree-Lewis did leave enough room. Raikkonen was unlucky with his tyres and yet again, Max showed his immaturity. Great drive by Vettel to finish fourth, but his mistakes are proving costly 

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2018 #61

    Well summed up Jon although I haven’t seen it yet.  Think Farerri need to consider running order in qualifying. I’m pretty sure if Vettel had been on pole he would have scampered away.

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