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Just returned from a 15 day visit to France, again we had a wonderful time meeting up with friends along the way. Our second site les Druides Carnac. We had been there a few days when we had new neighbours next to us. They were British. They arrived with another couple who pitched over the way to us. The man next to us said hi and we replied His wife kept herself to herself and never spoke. It was like I don’t want to look at you so she put up a canopy at the front of the fiamma The other couple were friendly enough .
One night a couple of our friends came and sat outside with us we had a couple of drinks and had a CD playing quite low. Next thing the woman who never spoke walked over to us (She and her hubby was sat with the other couple). Can you turn the music down as it was too loud. Well we all looked at each other.We did not cause a scene and we turned it off. Our friends and us are 60s and late 60s. The next day they moved on deciding to pack away before 8 am. Our friends could not believe what happened the music was not load .
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Some people are very sensitive to what they consider noise. You only have to read reviews of sites near major roads with some saying the constant noise from the motorway was deafening and others saying it is a distant hum, so two perspectives on the same issue! If you are enjoying an evening with friends and no doubt having a good chat why do you need music playing at the same time? I worry when we have our TV too load inside the van with the door closed!!!
David
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In 30 years of caravanning and motorhoming abroad I would say that I cannot ever recall anybody playing music outside of their van/awning. Sound carries a long way at night and with the hard ground. Seems it was louder than you thought. People are very sensitive to the possibility of having noisy neighbours so perhaps that’s why they moved on, justified or not.
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I suspect that some people have music on much of the day at home and rarely actually listen to most of it.
For me the time of day is irrelevant. If I can hear your music 'it's too loud Man'.
I'm pleased that you turned it down/off without a fuss. As to have made a fuss would have been out of order. The best volume setting would be 'off' as you realised.
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We left les Druides just before you arrived so at least we weren't faced with this "dreadful anti-social behaviour".
Whether I would have found it intrusive would depend on both the volume and the type of music. The problem with any type of music played outside, unless it is inaudible beyond the confines of your pitch, imposes your taste in music on others. You will recall George Bernard Shaw's remark "Do not do unto others what you would have them do unto you, their tastes may not be the same".
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Probably about 10 years ago (I think in Crete) we were on a beach that was quite popular and a couple of young lasses had a radio playing much to everyone's annoyance. When they went for a swim or to go off for a drink I opened the radio battery compartment and inserted a piece of card between battery and terminal to a round of applause from those nearby. When they returned they couldn't get the music on. Nobody said anything just some knowing smiles.
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My hubby wears two hearing aids and a woman called 'Good Morning' to him on a site in France this year which he didn't hear. Luckily I heard and saw her turn to husband and expressively roll her eyes. I was able to call across that he was deaf and didn't hear her and it turned out her hubby wore hearing aids too. Easy for misunderstandings to occur.
No misunderstandings on the subject of music outside, or come to that inside, the caravan, others shouldn't be able to hear it at all leave alone loudly.
I am particularly aggressive on this subject to day having been kept away by a disco in the next village until after 2am on Saturday night.
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am thinking of getting a notice printed to carry on my back stating "Cyclists if you want me to be aware you are there shout loudly"
A little while ago the bell fell off my bicycle when it was being transported on the roof of the Land Rover so I had to take to calling out to walkers etc instead. Somehow it seems much more friendly, and even with the bell replaced, I have continued to do so.
Maybe I should just play music loudly.
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Hi AK, Sorry you met stuffy people - but they were Brits !
I had all sorts of better experiences. A Dutch guy at Rabastens was listening over the hedge to my latest Katie Melua CD and said he would give me a beer if I played it again for him. We shared several. A boy with an acoustic guitar at Montfrin was playing outside the open air bar late into the night - and we all gathered round to listen. And a group of French folk singers at the site in the fort at Blaye were teaching local songs to a dozen of us one evening. It all seemed so happy and friendly on summer nights.
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There seems to be a majority opinion here that the OP was at fault but, although there is no doubt that sound carries in the open air, doesn’t it strike you all as a bit odd that only the one person complained?
We cannot know all the factors such as volume and distance but why assume the OP is in the wrong when none of us witnessed the event?
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That’s splitting hairs, Brue.
The majority of posters are suggesting the OP shouldn’t have played music outdoors. At fault / in the wrong / shouldn’t have done it / don’t want to hear it - they all amount to the same thing and it matters not which phrase I chose to represent the general view being expressed here.
I’m certainly not accusing the OP and I think we should be a little more open minded.
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All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t be too hasty to judge. None of us were there and can’t appreciate the full circumstances.
Yes, Brue, the OP acted considerately in turning the music off but that doesn’t mean he/she was inconsiderate in playing it. You want it turned off and I might well have agreed if I was there but none of us were so it’s guesswork.
Open minds - that’s fairer to the OP.
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Playing loud music outside the caravan on a campsite is antisocial. - I play music but if sitting outside, I use the headphones. --- Everybody's taste in music is different and who would ever want to have to listen to Rap music ( the C is silent ) when on holiday.
K
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Some people are happy to listen to other peoples music, some not. Some people are glad for something to complain about. Was the music louder than other peoples voices when sitting outside in this lovely weather. Was it louder than the water holder taken to be filled, or grey waste container, was it louder than a passing car, we don't know. We must be considerate to our fellow campers, but at the same time they should be considerate to us.
As Tinwheeler said we should keep an open mind.
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The OP put this in the public domain and seems to be seeking opinions on the situation. As far as I can see that is exactly what he got. No one has been rude to him or called him anti-social, they have just been giving their views on the subject which seems to be what he requested. Comments thus far have been made in light of the available information. I would welcome the OP returning to the thread to comment further, maybe with more information if there is any.
David
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Absolutely, David, more information might help us decide if the OP genuinely caused annoyance or not. Until then, it’s very difficult to offer a real opinion which is why we need to keep open minds. (I may have said that already 3 or 4 times.)
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To me it's just a small "event" on a site, people have added comments, the consensus so far is to be considerate about noise. I don't know about others but my opinions were real in the light of the post. As I'm not interested further it doesn't matter a lot, except to say some people are surprised when someone suggests that what they are doing isn't ok. Maybe they feel a bit miffed or affronted but the OP had the common sense, in the circumstances stated, not to argue with the other person and behaved courteously about the event.
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The OP must be blessed with good hearing to converse and have music playing simultaneously, my hearing aid has difficulty in separating music and conversation so it has to be one or the other.
If it wasn't loud and not an annoyance, and not time for zzzzzz's then happy camping. If it was any of that then a word in the ear would be appropriate.
On saying that, a post on a forum can hardly convey whether a CD playing might be at a level to annoy others.
Others cooking outside is more of an annoyance, I don't particularly want to share your cooking smells and smoke.
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doesn’t it strike you all as a bit odd that only the one person complained?
Not really. We got back to site about 4pm. About 4.30 somebody was playing music about 80 to 100 yds away and downwind in a stiff breeze. I would have complained as it had been going on for at least 20 mins but I was off to hand wash and rinse and spin some shirts etc. As I walked out of the laundry room the music was silent and the warden was walking away from the 'van. Probably others were disturbed as I was but had not yet complained. People do not like complaining in real life!
Why assume that the OP is wrong? Simple; if somebody could hear his music he was wrong.
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