Yapping / barking dogs
Not for the first time returned from Caravan and Motorhome Club site where the stay was ruined by other member’s dogs constant yapping and barking.
Full Members are responsible for any pets and can seek advice from an animal behaviourist. Asking their Vet or friends for a recommendation.
I am exploring a Notice of motion for consideration at the AGM.
“If three separate Full Members complain of the noise from dogs the owners are then informed of the complaint. If the noise carries on they are asked to move to a different pitch. Only asked to leave the site if further three members complain.”
To put this at the AGM a requirement is not less than one hundred Full Members who have been members since no later than 1st January in the year the Motion is submitted.
If you would like this discussed at the AGM please reply with your details including membership number to - dave.monksilver@outlook.com.
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As this is in Pets, I doubt many will see it.
Monksilver, that’s a very angry sounding post and you should have taken your complaint to the site warden in the first instance and then to head office if you were still unhappy.
I won’t be backing your campaign for three reasons. Firstly, I’ve never encountered a dog problem of any sort on site worthy of a minute's concern. Secondly, the procedure for dealing with 'offenders' already exists within the framework of the rules so what you are suggesting is a waste of time and effort as it is a duplication and, thirdly, it is discriminatory in that it singles out irresponsible dog owners as opposed to those who are responsible for all other forms of bad behaviour and breaches of rules. That, in my book, is grossly unfair within a club which treats all members as equals.
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This idea is very specific to dogs, and the yapping thereoff.
It could get a lot more support if it was rephrased to refer to any form of "ungentlemanly conduct"*. That way it would include all the things that are complained of on CT.
*Other genders and their bad ways are included.
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Exactly so, Nav. Surely no person with a fair sense of justice would wish to see an irresponsible dog owner face different and, arguably, more severe sanctions than, say, a speeder on site?
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It just depends on how far it is to the site that pitch is on !!
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Too single issue, discriminatory for me as well. I am happy for all forms of unsocial behaviour to be dealt with appropriately, find most are by the Wardens already.
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Indeed. It matters not that this is about dogs. It could be about unruly children, loud adults or badly behaved parrots but all should be dealt with in the same way and the rules already exist to that end.
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Very possible a wind up. Heck of a first post if it isn't though. One has to be very wary after recent events.
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I’m sure I’ve stumbled across MS before but there’s no history listed.
As for the moving pitch thing, I think that’s laughable. Even if another pitch was available it’s akin to saying "go and annoy somebody else".
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Just think of all the pitches that will have to be taken out of general use, reserved as follows:
Yapping dog pitch
Rude parrot pitch
Unruly kids corner
Fat blokes in football shirts
Speeders (or should that be speedos)
Noisy neighbours
Ssangyong Turismo towcars
Won’t leave much for us normal folk 😏
Wind up indeed..
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On a full site we could end up with the yapping dogs swapping pitches with the noisy neighbours. Hmm, it’s like musical chairs.
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Isn't it odd how often this sort of thread starts on a weekend when, apparently CT is not as closely monitored as during the week?
Dave - sorry I won't be joining in - I agree there's little more irritating than a dog constantly barking (our neighbours at home have one!), but to be honest I can only remember one occasion on a club site where it's been a problem and there the warden's were informed about a pair of dogs left in a van all day and "requested" that the occupants leave the site the following morning which they did. Which site was this, Dave? I'd like to read some more reviews to see if this was a more widely noted problem.
Interesting that most of the folk who've replied, in the main non dog owners don't recognise the problem but that you've got support from a chap who uses club sites for one night a year, so no great recent experience, but has experienced the problem in foreign fields!
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I thought the same thing M about the weekend, and monitoring. It could be genuine, it might not be. But it needs less prejudice and a lot more logic applied.
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(That means I won't be backing it)
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I guess being anti-dog simply blinded you to the inequity of the proposal, David.
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I'm not quite sure how using "a chap" to describe a male fellow poster is rude, David, but hey ho!
Actually I've come to the conclusion that you're a bit of a cheeky chappie wind up merchant yourself. I mean, all these years you've been telling us how unadventurous we are for sticking to what we know and having to book in things in advance. And now you've told us that you're booking - 12 months in advance - 6 weeks on the same site in Spain you've just discovered. That's to go with the 5 weeks booked on the same site in Croatia and 2 weeks at the same hotel in Cuba in January. And very sensible too to make sure you get what you want.
Not quite enough to be described as a "usual suspect" yet, but you're getting there!
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This is not the forum to say anything about dog bad behavior. All the CMC dog owners on here have perfect dogs who never bark, never run away, never defecate or miturate, growl or snarl. So obviously if anybody sees dogs being allowed to be antisocial, it must be somebody elses dog not a forum member's
K
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Oh dear, another anti dog thread.Yawn............
Give it a while and few more of the usual contributors will join in
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Dave
Are you aware that the Club have already recognised this can be a problem and in the last Magazine asked dog owners to be aware that noisy dogs can cause annoyance to other members? Can I ask what action you took on site, did you speak to the warden? I am not for or against your proposal but it does seem very draconian and not altogether practical for an issue that should be sorted out on site and as such I imagine it will be difficult to gather the required number of members to support your motion. You could of course always attend the AGM and raise the question. Alternatively you could write direct to the Club or perhaps leave a review of the site you were staying on.
David
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what the hell has a member's holiday preferences got to do with whether he agrees with another member's OP or not...?
being 'adventurous' (or not) has nothing to do with how one might feel about 'yapping dogs' and what one might consider doing about it...
like speeding, kids on bikes and all the other things that folk complain about on CT, running to the warden might seem the logical action but does it ever achieve anything....?
for a warden to censure miscreants (in any area) they need hard evidence, not folk telling tales, so incident reporting does little for those who feel they have a 'case'....
either way, the OP (for whatever reason) has decided that this approach doesn't work and is looking to get something changed at the place where these things can be changed democratically....he might have been interested in getting the speed limit changed or for a curfew on kids or whatever...
i didn't think for one minute that this 'proposal' has 'legs' but that's not the point. the OP feels that exercising 'due process' is the way to go, that's his prerogative, as is AD's to voice his support either at the meeting or on CT.
presumably without getting slagged of by a 'genuine' U.S.
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