Is the CAMC moving into the 21st Century?

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited April 2018 #32

    Kev, the point of my comment (picking up on what Phil had posted earlier about high number of hours) was that I hoped (however many hours you worked) that you 'got paid (properly) for what you worked'.smile

     

     

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2018 #33

    Good bit of backtracking there BBwink

  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,150 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2018 #34

    Don’t hold your breath, Kev. 

    The bait was dangled and not one but three wardens bit. Job done as far as K’s concerned.

    You’ll have made the day for both K and the OP. They have more than one thing in common. laughing

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited April 2018 #35

    JK, I think not....undecided

    ive said many times that I'm not a fan of the 'one warden fits all' staffing program the CC uses...I'd much rather see Wardens 'wardening' (whatever that is, but it's not cleaning toilets) and dedicated reception staff and (perhaps) contract cleaning....

    however, when Phil raised the issue of 50 or 60 hours work, this is where the current system doesn't stack up...

    and when Kev posted this "I certainly don’t work for 60 hours nor do my wardens, we work for what we get paid!!" the two parts are independent.

    one, suggesting he doesn't work 60 hours which is great...

    secondly, whatever hours he works, he's suggesting they work (hard) for what they get....and I'm sure he's right.

    my points were that I don't think anyone working for CC should be working 60 hours, and I'm glad that's not the case, but with only the Wardens's to 'call on' I could see how this might occur....this would be wrong, IMHO....

    secondly, my above post concurred with Kevs post in that, whatever hours they worked, they should be properly paid for them.

    id like to see more staff on site to share the load but this view always brings squeals of price increases.....

    however, if that's backtracking......undecided

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited April 2018 #36

    On-site employees take on the job fully aware of the job description and the salary. ( If they don't like the job why are they there ). Like most employees in all walks of life, they want to do a good job and carry out their employment in a professional and efficient manner and win the respect of their bosses in head office. To be known as a good and trusted employee  is a laudable objective. 

    Customers on the other hand, are not in least interested in the minutiae of the various tasks which company employees perform. Their interest is, in the case of a campsite, does it look well maintained and are the  public toilet and showers clean, are the company's on-site rules for the benefit of all being enforced. 

    Any interaction between staff and customer need only be when booking in and paying money, and the occasional greeting when passing on site. After that the customers just get on with enjoying their holiday.

    cool

     

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited April 2018 #37

    And there speaks a person who by such "observations?" show how out of touch with the ethos of what the wardens job is, and the interaction with the site visitors that is a major part of what is expected of them from the Head Honchos at East Grinstead

    JVcool

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited April 2018 #38

    No biting from me TW just really wanted some clarity on K sweeping statement which I may add he or she has sill not clarified. I doubt very much we will get any clarity just some wind up merchant poking at the wardens as he or she so regually does. 

    Kev

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited April 2018 #39

    Can I just clarify that I am not speeking for wardens in general. This is only my second season employed by the camc and can only speak of what we have done on the two sites we have worked on, one last season and currently on another site this season.

    I can only reiterate that we dont work anywhere near 60 hours, coming from an industry where those kind of hours were expected and not paid I certainly wasn’t going to be in the same position again.

    Kev

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited April 2018 #40

    Geez, that’s twice I’ve tried to post a photo at 408kb’s😤😤. Oy C&MC get IBM on the case👍🏻😊

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2018 #41

    I can't see what the fuss is all about. The OP is just bait dangling, helped along by a chum. Those who clean the 10 or so pods at say Coniston, will be contracted to Experience Freedom, under the CAMC umbrella. It will be like a contract for cleaning 10 bed and breakfast or small cottage units. Every time the staff walk into a pod, they will be met by something different, if my experience of maintaining cleanliness standards is anything to go by, they will earn every penny. I hope that the work goes to local people or a local company.