Family pitch rules not encouraging future members.

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  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #182

    On most sites the wardens operate the barrier on first arrival and so yes you would need to report.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2018 #183

    No as the member in whose name the contract was taken out with Must be present as part of the occupiers  of the pitch

    Which was just the scenario of the OP

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #184

    Others can use the van with his consent and in his absence but of course pay regular site fee

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2018 #185

    Well, the main difference is that statics usually have garden gnomes, but I take the point, Club site seasonal pitches are different.

  • MarknPam
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    edited January 2018 #186

    So I am not immediate family?  Again as I have stated before... we pay the caravan club member nightly fee of £7.80 each per night (as caravan club members!!!) over and above the nightly pitch fee(again), so we are not getting anything for free. This is money the club sites will be missing out on as instead of heading up for a week or long weekend (as I only work 6 months of the year) when my "parents" are not using the van then I would probably just go for the Friday/Saturday..  so the reality is the CC is already loosing out on the extra income it would have generated from encouraging family usage from immediate family... 

  • onepjg
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    edited January 2018 #187

    And my immediate family is my parents, children and grandchildren, regardless of what their address is.

    But maybe you feel different 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2018 #188

    I say again, M&P, tell the club. Make your views known to those who make the rules. Rowena has made them aware but it’s down to you to put your points across.

  • MarknPam
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    edited January 2018 #189

    My dad bought the van for the family, so we could all use it and get some QT together as family, time spent together is a scare commodity nowadays. When we go up to visit if he is there, we pay £16 a night, as he has paid an annual pitch subscription. I just feel it's double charging when we go as family without him in attendance, disappointing more than anything!  Not looking to get the rules changed for me, simply suggesting that the CC could be loosing out by not encouraging family usage on a paid for pitch, but still making money from daily fees.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #190

    You can use it. Just pay the rate if he is not there. Simple. As per the T&Cs if he is not happy and is less than 50% through the contract I believe that he can hand the pitch and get a pro rata refund. 

    You have said your piece. I have given my views. Nothing to add really. If your father is not happy he can contact the club. So can you if you wish. We have different views but nothing personal

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #191

    You know what I meant I suspect - as per the contract

  • MarknPam
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    edited January 2018 #192

    I will use it, but I will maybe just need to move back home to his place! 😉

  • Grant705
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    edited January 2018 #193

    So are you saying,  if the member failed to mention his wife on the application/contract she would not be allowed to stay on her own without paying pitch and person fees? undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #194

    I presume that it is the same as any other booking. Made in the lead member's name and joint member same rights.

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2018 #195

    I guess it's not what we 'say' it's what the Ts&Cs say. I'd bet that if one omitted to put wife, partner, husband on membership a quick phone call would put that right. 

     

  • Grant705
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    edited January 2018 #196

    But should the phone call be necessary or do the "roolz" take precedence over commonsense.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #197

    The fact that joint membership is required to have the same rights as a member might be a rule. However it is also common sense. 

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2018 #198

    Yes it is and should be necessary, if one has omitted to include a 'partner' or other family member residing at the agreement holders/membership address that phone call would sort it out. Peace of mind would reign for all concerned. Sometimes we don't help ourselves do we.

  • Grant705
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    edited January 2018 #199

    The CAMC has a reputation of being full of rules and many potential members are 'turned off' from joining. It would appear that this is an unjust accusation and it it the older members who are infact slaves to the rule book. Many of you are only months or a few years older than myself but it appears to me we are of a different generation.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #200

    Can't think of any rules that enslave me Grant. I think you are confusing fact and fiction regarding being enslaved by rules. I don't think that you are currently a member? 

  • Grant705
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    edited January 2018 #201

    I don't think that you are currently a member?

    Quite true and future membership is looking increasingly unlikely!

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #202

    Have you been a member recently Grant? I ask as I have never felt constrained by CC rules which are no more onerous than on many commercial sites

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2018 #203

    I'm not sure what you mean there grant, are you saying you don't keep to the rules? be careful that could lead you to being banned from CT?

    Also people do join the club and Ct of their own free will? And actually pay as well? I sometimes wonder why some do this then think the rules don't apply?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2018 #204

    Good question!

    An even better one might be “Did/do you use club sites or only CLs where many rules don’t apply?”. wink

     

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2018 #205

    There is an old saying hich goes:-

    Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools but trouble ensues when fools consider themselves wise men and wise men act as fools!

     Regrettably neither are age specific, that is why we need rules!

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2018 #207

    He is actually paying a very reduced pitch fee for his and one others personal use 

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2018 #208

    I would think the the vast majority of couples who are members have joint membership with their own card 

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2018 #209

    And a lot of "hidden extra costs"yell

  • Navigateur
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    edited January 2018 #210

    I was reading the T&Cs of a commercial site that I was considering visiting because of its location, and one of the rules was "No Music to be played".  So that rules out TV and radio, as well as my bagpipe practice.