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  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited December 2017 #902

    Yes. My plan is to travel in the afternoon in daylight. If I can get to the dealer at about 4.30 p.m. the charge will be completed by 5.30 p.m. ready to start my 6 p.m. shift. I usually start at 6 p.m. The dealer in Portslade is very close to where I work in Lancing and even closer to some of my customers in Shoreham.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited December 2017 #903

    I can't see how the sites can charge any more than the normal site fee for a slow charge using your caravan three pin socket?

    Trips out in the day would be very easy. Short trips for shopping etc. would use very little charge that could easily be topped up on return to the caravan.

  • cariadon
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    edited December 2017 #904

    At the moment there are only a few cars being charged, but when more and more are doing it then the caravan sites will have to look and see if their infrastructure can cope with the extra demand. Older sites will have to invest in new equipment etc which will all have to be paid for. There is a saying which is true " there's nothing for free" you pay for it somewhere.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #905

    They certainly can Malcolm. Some sites forbid the use of electric heaters in the awning. A site owner can take the view that, particularly in summer, the electricity use that he has budgeted for is minimal. He can choose to forbid charging of vehicles or take the view that vehicles might use up to £2 a night to charge and price accordingly for those wishing to hook up the car to caravan.

    If I was running a CL I might well take that view. 

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited December 2017 #906

    If they did charge extra, they would have to charge extra everytime you plug in any appliance into a three pin socket. How can they differentiate between a plug for a 2 kw or 3 kw kettle to a plug for an electric car? It is no different. Both use the same socket. Our Alde heating can run on 3 kw too! It would not be practical to differentiate between one plug and another whether it's an electric car or an electric kettle! Is the site owner going to get up in the middle of the night, with a torch and come inside your caravan or awning to see what you have plugged in? I doubt it!

  • brue
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    edited December 2017 #907

    wink

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #908

    How can they say 'No electric heating in the awning' Malcolm. Terms and conditions is how. Same with charging an EV.

    Do you intend to charge your EV on site sir? If yes that will be an additional £2 a night sir. Pretty simple really Malcolm

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #909

    Why would he wish to come into your awning Malcolm. Would you park your car in there? Why should he need to check Malcolm. He would have asked if you were going to charge an EV. If you said no and were dishonest he can simply look at the car.

    On sites which forbid electric heaters in awnings f found to be using one you would be asked to leave and not return. Same thing really

  • brue
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    edited December 2017 #910

    Since we are talking about a nonexistent car we have reached the epitome of pointless-ness. wink

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #912

    laughing

  • Yertiz
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    edited December 2017 #913

    Err, correction there Malc, you've previously stated that having your Alde on 3 Kw trips the electric.surprised

    Also, I'm pretty sure there is a dedicated thread concerning the charging of EV's?

    Or is that thread as pointless as this one now?

  • Wherenext
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    edited December 2017 #914

    EV posts are like the left over turkey. Just when you think you've finished it you go and find another bit of leg at the back of the fridge.laughing

  • cariadon
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    edited December 2017 #915

    I started the thread Charging cars on site so that at discussions would be in one place. I am as guilty as others to bring the discussion on this site, but it seems to have become more about charging the vehicle but about the finances, savings etc of the said vehicle and owner. can I suggest that Malcolm starts his own thread so that hopefully it will all be in the same place, hope this does not become a pointless post.

  • Metheven
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    edited December 2017 #916

    Although whatshisname is in cloud cuckoo land, he has a right to post wherever as everyone has a right to reply. If the mods think its in keeping with the forum then I guess everything is ticketyboo laughing and lets face it DIY, brussel sprouts, shopping and the weather is hardly riveting stuff innocent

    Pointless me pointing this out really undecided but like EV's, it keeps the forum ticking over wink

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #917

    If you don't like it Cariadon I suggest that you don't read rather than try and be prescriptive. No offence intended.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2017 #918

    Thats if you are not in a queue of others who have been taken in by the offer of "free😅"fast charges they wiil be doing, ready for journey to work next day ,  as they , like countless others will not have access to charge at their home address😢

  • ABM
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    edited December 2017 #919

    Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z !

  • Grant705
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    edited December 2017 #920

    Malc, Can I suggest you buy yourself a sleeping bag - ideal for those occasions  when you discover  have insufficient charge to get home and need to kip in the car.  laughing

  • Metheven
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    edited December 2017 #921

    I think resuscitation might be needed, two leads with crocodile clips and an EV should do it surprised

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #922

    ABM will never see he New Year in!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2017 #923

    He'll be alright G, he can huddle down under all those heated pizza delivery bags, and he won't starve either!laughing

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2017 #924

    'Neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow will stop my delivery but I might have to sleep in the car'! (Apologies to The Pony Express)

  • brue
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    edited December 2017 #925

    I tend to agree with you but as someone else said on another thread "nothing is going to stop it" I don't recall Malcolm ever starting a thread but you never know. wink

    Personally I prefer sprouts but they seem a bit old hat as we head to New Year.....in Africa, China and outer Mongolia....wink

    I wish you all a very Happy New Year.

  • SELL
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    edited December 2017 #926

    But is takes approx. 3 mins to boil a kettle not sure how many hours to charge a car, now there is the difference.

  • cariadon
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    edited December 2017 #927

    Thankfully the turkey is finished and definitely no sprouts until next

    Year. Tomorrow will have Welsh Beef roast dinner,  with Venison pate to start and a winter berry pavalova as desert. Then an afternoon watching Pointless on TV.

    Blwyddyn Newydd dda. Happy New Year.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #928

    Sometimes I don't get home until midnight. Are you trying to suggest that the site owner is going to get out of bed and come over from his warm house into the cold night just to check whether an electric car is plugged into a 3 pin socket at 01:00 in the morning? How ridiculous! He would be the laughing stock if he behaved in that way and most probably no-one would want to stay on such as a site. Don't forget, caravanners can move to other sites if they are unhappy with the T&Cs!

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #929

    Yes, if the fridge is on at the same time! Once the control panel is working, it can be switched over to gas.

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited January 2018 #930

    You might lose your customers if you did take that view, EasyT. Lancing Fruit Farm charges £12 a night which is £84 per week. That's three-quarters of my pay from Pizza Hut! If the fee went higher, I would need to move elsewhere.

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #931

    Just listening to radio 4 about China not wanting any more of our waste plastics and the attempt to stop single use plastics. The club has an advert with a plastic straw in use. I suspect China exports quite a bit of cheap plastic to us but they don't want it back.