Charging electric cars on Club sites.
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When you get home at 2215 you according to your previos posts are expecting your poor OH to get a meal ready for you,is that going to be on a in the future so you hope that your EV will not take out all the other C/van equipment
ps so no more late night postings as you will be drawing power to keep warm
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She usually does the cooking whilst I'm at work. The meal is ready by the time I get home. So the electric oven goes off and the EVcharging can start.
Incidentally, the heating can run on gas if there's a desperate need to do so. However, most of the time the weather is mild enough to manage without it even in the winter.
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Oh the irony JV, you are classic👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂
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Hi everyone,
For clarity, and as per a previous discussion on this subject, the sites operations team at the Club have advised that the Club do allow site users to connect out from their caravan, as many do for their awnings and connect/charge their car, however, this will reduce the available ampage required for other usage within their outfit, which is their choice. If it becomes an issue and they exceed the 16 amp supply this will trip out the bollard, therefore, the Site Staff would then suggest, if this does happen to ask them to reduce their appliances plugged in.
I appreciate the feedback we have received on this discussion and have forwarded this conversation to the sites operations team for their consideration with regards to some of the comments and suggestions such as having designated car charging points on Club Sites. There may be a delay in reply as many people off over the Christmas period.
A polite request to keep the conversation on track and friendly please. Many thanks.
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My existing Smart is costing £191.71 per month on the finance agreement 48 months of which 12 months are completed. Plus £20 per month for the service plan.
As I will get the new Smart Electric delivery from the factory within 6 months, I no longer need the service plan on the existing Smart because the next service is not due for another 12 months by which time the ownership of this car will have passed on to someone else. So the cancellation of the service plan is already saving me £20 per month.
If I had chosen to keep the existing car, I would have to continue paying £191.71 plus £20 service plan, plus £225 per month for unleaded petrol. So total monthly cost of £436.71.
The new Smart Electric will cost £289 per month on the new finance agreement, with no cost of unleaded petrol, thereby an overall saving of £147.71 per month which makes good financial sense to me. Furthermore, I get the benefit of a brand new car with more up to date technology and therefore better fit for purpose than my existing one. It's a win win all round!
After 48 months and completion of the £5000 balloon payment at the end of the finance agreement, I will then be better off by another £289 per month making a brighter future for me all round!
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Hello Rowena
For clarity, and as per a previous discussion on this subject, the sites operations team at the Club have advised that the Club do allow site users to connect out from their caravan, as many do for their awnings and connect/charge their car, however, this will reduce the available ampage required for other usage within their outfit, which is their choice. If it becomes an issue and they exceed the 16 amp supply this will trip out the bollard, therefore, the Site Staff would then suggest, if this does happen to ask them to reduce their appliances plugged in.
As you say this is the second time that this type of thread has appeared and you have had to post the club's stance on charging cars. Would it be a good idea to have this stated somewhere for everyone to see? Either the site rules next time they are changed or published or even in the UK Holiday's UK sites tab at the top of the club's website page (next to membership)?
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I still have the option of charging it for free at the dealership in Portslade using their fast charge! It takes 2 hours and you can sit in their air-conditioned reception and get free tea or coffee whilst you wait!
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They get their profit from selling you the car in the first place. Some customers might not be willing to buy unless they provided free charging facilities as a perk.
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Good idea Corners, there will be some considering changing their vehicles next year and information on this thread will disappear.
When EVs receive approval for towing (I think there is only one at present?) there will be further interest. For now, this mainly affects hybrid users. Second car charging might also need consideration and of course CL owners should be consulted.
Many thanks Rowena for clarifying things again!
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Corners, I’ve reported your post in the hope that your good idea may be seen by those in a position to do something about it.
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Rowena.......
While charging an EV will undoubtedly limit what else you can be running at the same time, I would expect that most owners would opt to charge overnight when their power consumption would otherwise be very low.
So they will not be using electricity for the EV INSTEAD of for something else, but AS WELL AS for normal caravanning activities. This is bound to lead to increased electricity consumption on Club sites.
The additional cost may be small at present, but will increase as more people buy EVs. How is this additional cost to be met?
My concern would be that pitch fees will just be increased to cover this, which of course would not be fair to those who do not use an EV.
Does the Club have a plan in mind?
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Many years ago......when I worked for the local electricity board, I was involved in designing the low voltage cable network for housing estates.
Each house has a 60A or 80Amp main fuse.
But every house on the estate cannot draw 60 or 80 amps at the same time, the installed infrastructure would in no way be capable of supplying that much. In fact we worked on a "Diversity Factor" assuming an average draw of 1kw per house ( thats about 4 amps) in non electric heating areas (the majority). If electric storage heating was going to be installed then we had to radically alter standard designs......
The Clubs low voltage supply network around its sites will, I am guessing, have been designed in a similar way. I very much doubt that the club anticipated that every, or even many, units would be drawing the 16A capacity of the EHU bollard.
Therefore as EV vehicles get more common I expect that the club will have to both increase the capacity of it's own LV cable network around each site and quite possibly pay for an upgrade to the incoming electricity board (the old name for power companies) supply.
These costs can only be either borne by charging EV users in some way ( dedicated charging points for a fee or metered supplies at the bollard) or by increasing everyones pitch fee.
At the moment we are probably 10 years away from the widescale use of electric vehicles so it is barely an issue for the club, but over the next say 10 years, there will be a lot of costs to somebody......
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Erm......you mean like buses? Electric of course.
I have no real issues with progress towards electric cars, so long as the electric to make them and power them comes from renewable sources.
But I bet I can guess which section of the population is going to be the last to benefit, exactly the same section that doesn't live in London or other major conurbations, where a regular bus service is a thing of the past, where any kind of infrastructure investment relies upon someone making a vast profit (broadband anyone?) before it is put into place, where a taxi costs an arm or a leg, and where a 4x4 is used properly to get around in snow, and up and down steep inclines, all day, every day.
However, on the plus side, at least some of us have room to park a car, or two, or three, or even four! Living cheek by jowl on a brand new estate, in thrall to restrictions based on what can or cannot be parked outside, waiting for dodgy taxi drivers to pick me up is a hell I will postpone for as long as I can!
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At the moment we are probably 10 years away from the widescale use of electric vehicles so it is barely an issue for the club, but over the next say 10 years, there will be a lot of costs to somebody......
I agree Tintent apart from the last paragraph which I quote above. Think it will be much shorter than 10 years. In the caravanning world Hybrids will drive the change and quite quickly. If you were in the market for a new tow vehilcle, would you buy a diesel right now?
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I bet someone's new car will go "wum, wum" rather than "brum, brum"!
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Is that per head of population or by area, Brue?
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