Charging electric cars on Club sites.
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Warning signs should be used to make people aware of the dangers. H&SE.
Indeed. Keep away from yellow snow and orange cables.
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Click, the BBC Gadget program did a feature on Electric Formula car racing in Japan (I think) over the past few weeks. It did feature an insulated hook that is used by the safety crew when the car in is the pits. Their orders are to observe the mechanics/technicians and if they start shaking to pull them away from the car..... So I guess EV have their own issues regarding safety.
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They will only shake if it is alternating current. Direct current causes rigidity. Even in the few seconds before death while you know you know you are being electrocuted, you cannot pull away.
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The only milk float I ever worked on was 24 volt. Not 650 volts. The higher voltage is part of the "make it work at any cost" effort.
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To my mind the 16 amp provision is essentially provided to meet the habitation needs of campers. EV were not invented when the EHU bollards were introduced.
EV are simply vehicles powered by electricity. Electricity is the means of propulsion. Other cars use petrol or diesel.
If the Club starts providing or allowing EV to be charged via the current 16amp bollards they are treating EV Owners more favourably than other members with vehicles powered by petroleum or diesel.
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Anyone who buys an EV has to pay almost double the price that they would pay to buy a petrol or diesel car. So they have already paid for the power it uses in the price of the car. So there is no justification in an additional cost for providing a re-charge of a battery that is using no more power than any other domestic appliance that is plugged in to a 13 amp socket.
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Not a view that I share in; any so called "additional cost" has not been paid to the CMC for free charging. The cost to owners has been taken by the vehicle builder and their retailing structure.
Indeed, there is no additional cost over the build cost, taxes and margins, quite the opposite, as a chunk of the vehicle's more expensive cost has been covered by a government subsidy.
A cost placed on me and all other taxpayers for the hoped for long term health benefit of those living in densely populated areas.
Not something I disagree with, though I certainly disagree with any suggestion the owners should now be given their fuel and vehicle fuel tax for free from now on, and not by such a third party like our club.
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Anyone who buys an EV has to pay almost double the price that they would pay to buy a petrol or diesel car. So they have already paid for the power it uses in the price of the car.
And there was me thinking that the high (even though subsidised) cost was because of the huge cost of mining and refining materials to make the batteries!
I wonder which part of society will pay for their disposal?
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What a strange outlook you have on EV's.
Nobody made you buy one, apart from the salesman of course!
"No justification in an additional cost for providing a re-charge"??
What a daft comment
Moving forward, IMO, the Government will have to extract more cash as more people buy EV's as the loss of revenue from fossil fuel drivers will have to be recovered in some shape or form.
It might seem a good idea now but sure as eggs is eggs they will charge for everything connected to EV's
IMHO, I think you are just trying to justify your recent expenditure to yourself? Well, I think it's too late for that now.
Of course, it could just be that you are just a WUM!
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Would you expect to pay an additonal cost for running your Alde heating on 2 kw? No. So don't expect to pay an additional cost if you turn your Alde heating off and use that power to re-charge an EV.
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About the same, I would think because our Alde Heating can work on up to 3 kw but we turn it down to 2 kw because it trips on 3 kw if we run the fridge at the same time.
Charging an EV will use less than 16 amps because otherwise it would trip! That's why it is permissible now at no extra cost and should continue to be in the future.
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We don't need the Alde Heating on at night, the Duvet is warm enough! 9 hours overnight charge for the Smart Electric when no other electric is being used, would be sufficient.
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The fridge can be switched over to gas at night. It will use less in winter because of the ambient temperature being much lower.
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No because I would lose my deposit and will be £45 a week worse off because of having to continue using unleaded petrol.
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But how do you know this?
From what you've previously written and IMHO you have done little or no research on what impact charging an EV will have on your lifestyle?
You've stated before hat you have electric cookers / heaters / fridges etc, etc that you use in the awning, what's going to power them?
To my mind you've bought your EV on a whim, without even driven one or tested out your theory as to what is going to happen on site.
In fact you haven't even seen the car in the flesh yet, only a brochure
Mind boggling
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When I get home from work usually at about 22:15, I can plug in my Smart Electric into the 3 pin external socket which is in the awning. By the time I get up next morning I will have a full charge ready for use in the day and for my next work shift.
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