Deposits yes / no

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  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited November 2017 #122

    Given the almost universal aversion to deposits, it would seem that the other alternative is to restrict "weekend only" bookings to not more than three/four months in advance. Mind you this seems, for some reason, equally unpalatable.

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #123

    Rolling availability

    Deposits for very advanced bookings only

    Pitch type selection at all sites where there’s grass and h/s

     

    Job done. CMC... just do it wink

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #124

    I don't agree about equally unpalatabe. But not popular with some. I don't think that it would greatly help unless single weekend bookings were restricted to one month ahead, I suspect that the only difference might be a few more bookings including the weekend and into the weekdays. If it were restricted to 3 or 4 months I doubt that there would be a noticeable change. There would still be complaints if a 1 month restriction was in place but from a different set of users. smile

    Due to the pressure at weekends one groups gain is another's loss

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2017 #125

    No to deposits.

    No to minimum number of nights.

    In fact, keep as is, it works for 'many' if not most I reckon!

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2017 #126

    Enough, thanks Alanwink

    ...certainly sufficient to have a valid opinion on their sites and their processes...

    ....i camp with both clubs a lot more than you (or some others)...i am 'away' as long as most users here (and far more than a lot of others)..

    i do spread my custom around (when in the uk) between both the clubs, commercials, cl/cs, ths sites...but, because i do around 10+ weeks in the uk (and upto 20 'away') this means i still have plenty of weeks on cc sites.

    in fact, i will be on one in the first week of December and a different one on the fourth week of December.

    it will be four (CC) in total this year, but even four weeks is possibly more than a great many manage.....

    so.....know you know.....whats your point?wink

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #127

    If it works for the Club, i.e. financial income, then nothing will change. If the Club see a potential financial benefit, it will change.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #128

    it will be four (CC) in total this year, but even four weeks is possibly more than a great many manage.....

    so.....know you know.....whats your point?.

    I was wondering if introducing deposits for CC sites would have much affect on you BB. I know you spend a lot of time outside the UK and suspected that CC bookings were mainly not made far in advance. 

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  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #130

    coolcoolwink

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2017 #131

    no it wouldnt make a scrap of difference (i think i said upthread that none of my 'thoughts on the subject' would specifically affect me...)...

    i was on a CCC site this week (deposit) and one a couple of months ago (deposit) but we dont book far ahead...

    we may squeeze one more trip in before the end of Nov one, but cant book (with any provider) as i havent decided where i might like to go...

    so, deposits dont have any bearing on how/when/where we go...

    now, if i sat down in November with a map and then booked all my tours on frenzy day, i might think differently.....wouldnt you?wink

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2017 #132

    well there you go, David....Im a 'top' level user....wink

  • MichaelT
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    edited November 2017 #133

    So I just book a week on frenzy day then amend to a weekend laterwink

    Block booking weekends is a myth get over it everyone, deposits will not stop people wanting to go away for weekends as they work during the week.

  • Milothedog
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    edited November 2017 #134

    What about putting a limit on the number of bookings you can have outstanding, say 6 at a time ? when you use one then you can then book another.

    It would certainly reduce the number of people booking sites on frenzy day just in case they may want to use them undecided  and possibly free up space for those who weren't able to commit to a booking early on  because of their domestic situation with employers, schools holidays, etc cool 

  • peedee
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    edited November 2017 #135

    Myth or not having to pay up front for a stay of 3 days or less will focus the minds of speculators and more than likely help those who want longer stays. I find the average of 6.7 nights per year very low. To me it indicates members are having trouble obtaining pitches for longer stays.

    peedeee

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #136

    Not a bad punt that, liked laughing

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #137

    Would love to know what the same statistic is with the C&CC, use of CL’s may not tell the whole story but if not a factor, barely worth the annual membership fee for those staying less than 6.7 on club sites

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #138

    We often use far in excess of 6 sites for a touring holiday so I’d only be able to book part of my tour. Think touring rather than staying in one place and you’ll see the issue.

    That idea gets a big thumbs down from me, Milo. 

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #139

    But then how many come on just this website saying how they only use their club membership for other benefits and not use club sites

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #140

    It’s a terrible punt. See my previous and think it through. 

  • Milothedog
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    edited November 2017 #141

    Just an idea I thought I'd throw out there TW, as they say "you can't please all the people all the time" smile

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #142

    Thought about it and its still a big thumbs up wink you’d just have to book site number 7 of your tour after you’ve arrived at site number 1, you’ll get used to it wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #143

    Why?

    Do you want to disenfranchise all the members of this touring club who actually tour rather than sit on one site for a week?

    You may have thought but not very deeply. Try looking at the broader picture for something that works for all members on an equal basis.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #144

    We will so far have used the cc sites network for 147  nights away this year when we next go home, and only one was booked last December none have been two night w/ends ,but the majority have encompassed at least one w/end,and have not had a problem booking any for the dates we wanted , including a "honeypot"site

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #145

    Smileys... loosen up. Your point is very valid and you’re absolutely right. I realise the argument you raise. Just didn’t want to admit it straight away. But you bit the hook anyway wink

     

    Like I’ve said a couple of times above, the Club have admitted they are looking at it (Facebook) Ultimately they want to get more members on sites and they’ll do what they think is required to achieve this. As Helen from HO stated on FB... “watch this space”

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #146

    now, if i sat down in November with a map and then booked all my tours on frenzy day, i might think differently.....wouldnt you?


     As you know BB that's what I do. wink

    For me it would possibly make a difference in as much as CC might not necessarily be a no-brainer. Yes I like what they offer however. 

    With the average bookings amounting to 6.7 nights seemingly according to the CC mag it would seem a tad unfair to 'punish' those that probably have 100 CC nights!

    What I do dislike though are the commercial sites that want balance paying a month ahead. OK, often a £10 a night deposit but paying a month ahead of the visit is a pita on those bookings, Not the money - just the faff
     

  • peedee
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    edited November 2017 #147

    If I remember correctly the average number of bookings made by a member on frenzy day was of the order of 3, so I really don't see what restricting bookings would achieve. It wouldn't be a problem to me anyway because I would book the seventh with someone else.

    peedee

     

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #148

    What about putting a limit on the number of bookings you can have outstanding, say 6 at a time ?

    Make it 20 and that would be fine! 6 would not normally cover my first trip. I come home and I am off again in under 4 weeks.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #149

    Is that surprising? A wink can mean many things.

    I think you’ll find it’s so much better to say straight out "I hadn’t thought of that" rather than bluffing your way around and deliberately winding people up. Happy to help.smile

  • GodivaNige
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    edited November 2017 #150

    I think this is the issue the Club are looking at PeeDee, you, like as I do, book elsewhere because the option and availability isn’t there when we need it. That’s lost revenue for this Club on the grounds of their system. 

    Not because we choose to book elsewhere for long stays or in advance of frenzy day, but because there is no choice. 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #151

    Not sure PD. I would have guessed an average of 14 nights. However I know that when I first joined CC it was, in part, to access the CLs. 

    My neighbour is a member and uses no CC sites because he has a favourite site that he generally uses.