Refillable Gas Systems

If, like me, you are always on EHU, caravan in UK and use little gas I see no advantage in Safefill David. I am away 120 nights and probably use around 6kg a year at most. For me the smaller 3.9kg bottle is easier to use than the Calor lights being not much different in weight and less bulky.

2 cylinders is always a good idea David. I notice a post from Boff on the other thread that he picked up a SF cylinder off eBay for £105. Still not cheap but sooo worth it. If like hitch you don't use much gas then don't get one but you are a Cadac champion and I would imagine that you use enough gas to justify one. 

Pippah, I can't say too much but I am in contact with SF virtually on a daily basis and I can tell you that things are moving forward at a good pace. Mine and others emails seem to have jerked some of these large concerns into action regarding supplying gas to Safefill customers. If you haven't sent an email to Shell or Morrisons or anyone else you can think of, send one!! Safefill have been trying for two years and they are the makers but now that customers are asking why they haven't pulled their finger out, it's a different ball game. I have just had a call from Morrisons customer services. Suddenly, they are listening! We will be able to fill our Safefills anywhere soon- I'm convinced of it, The battle has been won, now the war has to be won too- we need the troops- get those emails away!,

If I were running a petrol station with LPG pumps no way would I permit the filling of any bottles after doing an assessment of risk and profitability.

Safefill may be perfectly safe indeed but how can my cashier behind the desk be certain that it is a safefill being filled and not a diy lashup? 

Unless there were a large number wanting to take significant amounts of gas why should I put the responsibility on my cashier in order to add a pittance to the stations income? 

I doubt that Calor will bring out a refillable simply because they have millions tied up in rental cylinders and the revenue is immense . There already is a revolution going on- it's called Safefill and it's revolutionised the LPG industry by giving people a choice between  hugely expensive rental or filling your own cylinder for 25% of the cost

Today, the 22nd of August, there is a meeting this afternoon between Safefill and Morrisons. This should , if there is any justice, be the start of a new era for refillables. Although all safety issues are now laid to rest with the inclusion of Safefill in the Red Guide, I went to the UKLPG website this morning and STILL, the old sheet 26 is showing even though UKLPG has promised to rewrite it to include properly constructed user owned cylinders! Can I ask all interested parties to get a strongly worded email off to UKLPG to get them to pull their finger out please. It can't be that difficult or time consuming to put an injustice such as this, right. Thanks. Public pressure will help add weight to remove this log jam we have. We are getting there, let's get there faster. 

Pippah - update- it was actually March although it didn't hit the forums until late July but they have known about it since March! 

Went to Jackson this afternoon and at the checkout ( total cost 99p!!) I asked the lady at the cashdesk if the uptake of Safefill had increased. She answered 'Massively'! She put it partly down to the withdrawal of the CalorvLites from circulation. I think you will find that Calor will bring out a composite cylinder made by  the same manufacturer as Safefill for the weight issue, but they will be rental cylinders- what else?? It'll be interesting to see what they do. 

1. No news on the Morrisons front yet- keep praying.
2. I had the same email from UKLPG and am formulating a reply. The Sheet 26 you are looking at was revised in July 16. An awful lot has happened since then!! This is still the old 26 and will, in some cases, convince the forecourt owner that he must not allow 'customers or untrained staff' to fill cylinders! I didn't notice queues of car drivers waiting for training courses when they started filling up there gas converted cars!! This is just delaying tactics for political and profit reasons. There are those that are still trying to kill off Safefill. They haven't realised that the battle is lost but, they will carry on fighting as long as they can. All a Safefill is is a cylinder shaped car! Shell replied to me the other day saying that due to the cylinder 'shooting off' the dispenser on the odd occasion, the blanket ban remains in force. As Safefill users will know, such a thing can't happen. I would have emailed back but sometimes you just have to accept that your efforts are hitting a brick wall.  When you study this a little closer you realise that Autogas supplies Shell and who are Autogas?? - Calor!! I have the distinct feeling that Shell will be left with egg on their faces as Safefill becomes widely or even universally accepted. Watch this space for further exciting news😂😂😂😂😂