Misleading late availability

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  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited April 2017 #32

    I agree that the cancellation date should be extended beyond 72 hours.....I think 2 weeks would be reasonable.

    So you are lucky you seem to know 2 weeks in advance you or someone is going to be ill, your car will break down, your house flood, someone is going to die etc?  

    Please can you tell me the lottery numbers tonight when you look in your crystal ball undecided

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2017 #33

    Blackout, heart issues, fitting-to name but 3

    I would not like to think that people with these problems are driving amongst us, but the recent "bin lorry" scandal in Glasgow shows how easily it is done.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2017 #35

    I'm afraid that it happens unfortunately without warning, not all illnesses/attacks give prior warnings, that was the reason for my original post-not a 'muppet' but a possible poorly person.

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited April 2017 #36

    Hi everyone, Some posts in this discussion have been removed in order to keep it on track. A reminder to please keep conversations free from arguments. We welcome different views on Club Together but we do ask that members respect each others opinions, even if you don't agree. As such please can we keep this discussion on topic, otherwise we will need to close it to avoid further disagreement. Many thanks for your understanding.  

  • compass362
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    edited April 2017 #37

    Would they ever be believed 😜 if the figures were published ........I doubt it

    They wouldn't fit in with peoples imagination............😘

     

  • IanH
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    edited April 2017 #38

    Exactly so, Compass.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2017 #39

    And as it is only one or two actually need or want the figures, then it is pointless keeping on about it, or even more pointless having the added capacity needed in the system to extract them

  • IanH
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    edited April 2017 #40

    No added 'capacity' required - the information will all be there. All it needs is for the Club to extract it. If they haven't already done so.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2017 #41

    Nowt wrong with disagreement Ro as long as folk are respectful IMO

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2017 #42

    The club says its does not record such data. However I am curious? Do people wander in or contact any other leisure organisation that they use and ask for such data?

    Does anyone contact Toby's for example and ask how many people cancelled or how many no shows there were? Well I don't - I just use try and book a meal, if its full I don't start to get hot and bothered thinking it's all due to late cancellations, or no shows, or even no deposits. I simple find somewhere else. Or if I do get in with, well we're full but we'squeeze you in, or we've had a late cancellation I then don't spend my time there looking round at all the empty tables, I just enjoy my meal happy that I got in. I don't question whether Toby's is running its business well, I'm just happy with, and enjoy the end product. 

    The same applies to club sites?

  • Randomcamper
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    edited April 2017 #43

    I take your point Corners........

    but, what would be interesting to compare would be how many "no shows" or very late cancellations there are for Thomson/First Choice/Thomas Cook holidays there are when those customers have paid several months in advance........

    Because all the quoted reasons for late cancellations above such as illness/car breakdown blah blah equally apply, but somehow I suspect (and don't know obviously) that when they have had to make a significant financial commitment they are a lot more resourceful in getting to the airport on time.........wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2017 #44

    yes and very true, but there is an essential difference in a holiday on a club site and with Thomas Cook?  We have just had to pay the balance on our summer Thomas Cook holiday and it was in the thousands. Now obviously the difference between this type of holiday and even a two week club stay in terms of cost is huge, but even if the club charged deposits I could probably 'afford' to lose it for a summer holiday and could certainly afford to lose a weekend's club site deposit unlike the deposit for Thomas cooks.

    And of curse I've taken out holiday insurance to cover myself if the worst happens.

  • IanH
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    edited April 2017 #45

    Excellent post Tintent.

    I doubt that many cancel a booked and paid for holiday due to weather. The lack of any financial commitment makes it too easy to cancel late or simply not show up.

    Incidently, I do feel able to ask the Club for statistics.......because I'm a member of the Club and pay a membership fee for that.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2017 #46

    Of course you are able, but being a member why should the club tell you? I'm a member of various clubs, I pay my subscription to some vary large ones, I certainly don't feel they have to tell me anything provided they supply me with a good product.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2017 #47

     " The lack of any financial commitment makes it too easy to cancel late or simply not show up. "

    But yesterday you said you didn't subscribe to the theory that paying deposits made folk less likely to cancel didn't you, or did I mis-understand? As I said then, if I was the sort to cancel because of the weather, if I'd paid a deposit, I'd leave it as late as possible before deciding not to go, thus my pitch would not become available for other members. That is the thinking behind the no-deposit system isn't it?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2017 #48

    perhaps Ian has moved on with his thinking from yesterday? 

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2017 #49

    The thing is that our club affords us the ability to cancel or amend our bookings if our plans do not pan out for whatever reasons and I'd bet that the vast majority of us members do not take 'advantage' of this. Afterall, those very busy sites will always remain very busy even if I have to cancel for unforeseen circumstances. For the record though, I don't think I've ever cancelled, I have amended bookings mind having changed dates and sites on one or two occasions. It works and sets the club apart as a network from the samey commercials, a real bonus I feel.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2017 #50

    +1