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  • Fysherman
    Fysherman Forum Participant Posts: 1,570
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    edited February 2017 #1022

    To the young ' uns caravans are not cool. (research conducted with 25 fellow university students last year)

    They tell me MH's on a VW Transporter are cool but because they cannot afford them most don't go camping at all they go on a flight to the med for £30 or a flight to Mexico for £300.

    Despite being taken all over Europe in both MH's and caravans for years my now grown up daughter thinks all camping is naff. This idea of risking everything just to appeal more to the young people is a risky one.

    I really think that by wazzing off (technical term) existing loyal members the club has shot itself right in the foot and will drive members to the other club or they just won't bother and use the independent sites

  • janhsmn
    janhsmn Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2017 #1023

    I asked on Facebook for a plain English reply to what changes us members would see on the ground apart from new signs, this was the response, I will let you make up your own mind 

    Hello Janet.
    Previously the imagery was mainly that of the sites themselves which a lot of our members are already aware of. We are not stopping this however we are also adding imagery of local attractions and scenes of outstanding beauty a stones throw away from the sites - hence using the word inspiration in our new branding. In addition to this we are building up more member offers with companies providing outdoor adventures for our members to utilise and create your own experiences.
    I hope this is a little more plain English for you. ^Dean

  • The Ovaltineys
    The Ovaltineys Forum Participant Posts: 196
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    edited February 2017 #1024

    and will drive members to the other club

    It looks like I'm a trailblazer    laughing

  • Coventrykid
    Coventrykid Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited February 2017 #1025

    Thankyou for reporting this back to us. Perhaps if this had been communicated by the Committee to the members in last month's magazine a lot of upset would have been avoided. 

  • JayEss
    JayEss Forum Participant Posts: 1,663
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    edited February 2017 #1027

    Is that a serious response?  They aren't promising much are they?  It's also rather patronising 

  • brue
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    edited February 2017 #1028

    The club needs to throw out it's old stock of site photos and get some decent new ones. The latest sites directory still has old, out of date photos and some of the sites don't look inviting at all. There is one of Treamble Valley that just looks a mass of vans and another very old one of Hillhead with vans on pitches now used by tents....and more. frown

  • paulmold
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    edited February 2017 #1029

    There are already 29 club sites that accept tents, perhaps that number will increase without another rebranding.

  • Gabsgrandad
    Gabsgrandad Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited February 2017 #1030

    Quote - "As a motor caravan is now known as a motor home why can't a caravan be called a mobile home to reflect the new modern and use of the term?"

    Cos I'm a caravanner and have been for forty years.I was a caravanner when I started and still am. My money has changed  a bit in that time (Couldn't alter that either!),  but I suspect the Caravan Club  wink will continue wasting it and spending it on irrelevant name making projects. Who is credited with it Grenville?  --  Or was it a "committee?" that Colin Crompton would have been proud of?

  • GTP
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    edited February 2017 #1031

    I picked up on that...although not around in 1907....I'm confident in saying motorhomes did not exist in 1907....could this lead to a legal challenge.?

  • PhilH
    PhilH Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited February 2017 #1032

    Too much corporate bull yet again. Telling people to like it or leave is very negative and not at all useful to this discussion.

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited February 2017 #1033

    Completely agree, if you take a look at the C&CC website and publications, there are images galore of families interacting, pursuing leisure activities, children playing etc The images have a completely different feel to them. Any young family ditching the package holiday in favour of a caravan purchase to partake in the ever increasing staycation trend, are going to look at this material and make the obvious choice in which club to join.

    New photos needed, my rates are very favourable wink

  • janhsmn
    janhsmn Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited February 2017 #1034

    I am glad it's not just me that through it was bordering on rude.  Let's face it there are to be no site or website improvements which is what is really needed.  I have been with the caravan club on and off across 45 years. We use it for the same reason my parents did, the pitches are well spaced, the facilities are reasonable and it's not full of clubhouses etc.  But the method of booking is appalling, and if you work and can't arrive on site until 6pm you have no chance of getting a decent pitch.  And to be honest in this day and age I would expect wifi at a much better price than offered. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2017 #1035

    Well, 24 hours from the Club's very own go at Brexit, and one has been taking stock.

    Did I feel the earth move? I did not.

    Do I feel inspired? Sadly not.

    Do I feel changed? Again, that's a no.

    Do I have a handbook yet? Again, sadly that's a no.

    Is the website working any better? Ho hum....more of the same really.

    Am I really bothered about all this? Not really.

    Life drifts merrily onward, maybe in a few years time I will recognise what this momentous day was all about, and I can say.....................

    "I was there, it happened when I was a member"

  • brue
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    edited February 2017 #1036

    Good idea! The CMC needs to update it's image.

    Time to throw out the Box Brownie I think....laughing

  • Metheven
    Metheven Club Member Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2017 #1037

    The members could donate some photo's, oh wait I think this has been poo poo'd before, something to do with copyright innocent

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2017 #1038

    When at the show yesterday,it was obviose that there was quite a lot of "we cannot answer that" as the question asked had not been scripted?

    I asked if the one of the reasons that the younger families are taking to tents,is because modern houses have space for a trailer and all the  modern kit that makes tent camping much more acceptable, and with a normal small family car,  the set up and running costs of other types of camping is that much higher, A  unable to answer that?

     Q   Is the reason more sites are now accepting tents and installing "Pods,because of the trend for camping?

    A It is a growing market we need to tap into 

     

    So I would think the increase in c&cc membership is the upsurge in younger families camping in tents

    Next "re brand" will be CMCC to let tenters become full menbers

  • GodivaNige
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    edited February 2017 #1039

    Not just copyright, if a commercial enterprise wants to use images with recognisable faces, a model release needs to be obtained.

    Take a look at the images on the C&CC website, there is a model release for each and every one of those adults and children featured. 

    Not simple to obtain lifestyle images like this, nor cheap, but they are extremely effective. Far more effective than a generic view of a bunch of white boxes in a field

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited February 2017 #1041
    • Do you not get that the Club needed to revive and modernise it's image, become more inclusive and attract the increasing leisure vehicle ownership to its doors? Whilst you and many many others posting here may have liked things just so, this approach was doing nothing for the future of the Club. My only concern is that the Club should have done this sooner, but it's better late than never.
  • PSK9
    PSK9 Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2017 #1042

    Great News!

    Owning a Motorhome,  I now feel more of a member than before.

    My only wish was that this great club would learn from the other well known club and offer discounts to the over 60s.

    Pensioners are poorer but do have more leisure time.

    Please consider this.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2017 #1043

    According to latest Gov figures pensioners are better of finacialy than other areas of the population as can be seen also by the proliferation of the very expensive Motor Caravans now on the roadscool

  • percyvera
    percyvera Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited February 2017 #1044

    I think the fact that the number of comments made in the last few days, now at 1045, proves how controversial the new branding is. Surely the money it will cost for re-branding could have been better spent. If it had been put to a vote with the costing no doubt a huge number of members would have rejected it. I do not recall being asked for any feedback but then there are so many adverts in the magazine it usually goes in the recycling without being read. 

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited February 2017 #1046

    and free to cash in their pensions too wink

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited February 2017 #1047

    Speculate to accumulate

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited February 2017 #1048

    i agree so long as i can stay on site longer on a fri

  • The Ovaltineys
    The Ovaltineys Forum Participant Posts: 196
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    edited February 2017 #1049

    Hooker, I'm sure most working families would have no problem with your suggestion as they are likely to arrive late.

    . If the CC want to attract more families they have to break away from the farce of a 12.00pm  departure

  • frabro
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    edited February 2017 #1050

    I 've looked at a lot of the posts and find very few supportive of this rebranding , new logo and the large sums of money it no doubt has already cost and  will continue to cost on unnecessary changes to signage etc. All this is foisted, and yes I hear warm words about consultation, well it certainly passed me by, on members on the grounds of diversity,

    adapting to changing demands and to open up the great outdoors to a new audience. You'll forgive me for a degree of scepticism . Rebrands in business usually are generated when the business is starting to fail , is loosing market share, diversifying or widening its product base. None of these apply in this case, and the new logo, which doubtless costs large sums to design and choose is mediocre at best. Our previous logo expressly defined what the club did .  The costs of this senseless and unwanted rebranding would have much better spent on investing  in sites, more serviced pitches , wifi on sites like Troutbeck etc. 

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Forum Participant Posts: 8
    edited February 2017 #1051

    Well we are not happy at all with this new logo. As paying members of the Caravan Club were we balloted? No were we asked to vote for the design of a new log? No. It's nondescript people won't know what it means. Looks like a heart . No we won't be displaying it on our vehicle or caravan