A request

huskydog
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edited September 2016 in How to use Club Together #1

Is it possible for members to discuss threads in a friendly way ,rather than the argumentative way that a lot of threads seem to be going at the moment , there seem to be quite a few topics that seem to end up closed because of the play ground fightingYell,yes
we all have differing views, and that's fine and nothing wrong with a bit of friendly banter thrown in ,but just lately CT seems to have come a school play ground , 

Just sayingCool

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  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2016 #2

    A road to Damascus moment HDHappy

  • Alex Cassells
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    edited September 2016 #3

    Hi huskydog, never happen mate. If the Club has requested this in their guidelines and we have been reminded of it many many times I don't think your request will do any good. Nice thought though. Have a good weekend, Alex.

  • HelenandTrevor
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    edited September 2016 #4

    Let's hope so HD, Undecided  It has got very argumentative and must put people off posting, me included. Sad

  • compass362
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    edited September 2016 #5

    Is it possible for members to discuss threads in a friendly way ,rather than the argumentative way that a lot of threads seem to be going at the moment , there seem to be quite a few topics that seem to end up closed because of the play ground fightingYell,yes we all have differing views, and that's fine and nothing wrong with a bit of friendly banter thrown in ,but just lately CT seems to have come a school play ground , 

    Just sayingCool

    Write your comments here... That's life , I'm afraid love it or hate it , the CC as a vast mix of members whom have a wide & variable look at life in general needless to say their life standards clash sometimes

  • huskydog
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    edited September 2016 #6

    A road to Damascus moment HDHappy

    it's early, i don't get it.....................Cool

  • Alex Cassells
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    edited September 2016 #7

    I agree compass362. Not just differing views, but also differing ways of going about things, interacting with people, communicating. Tolerance, patience, a bit of tact and diplomacy. I'm sure most people exercise these things, just not everyone and as Esther
    used to say.......!

  • huskydog
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    edited September 2016 #8

    Don't get me wrong ,i'm all for good strong lively debate with both sides putting their corner ,but just lately it has sunk to new depth's, just look at how many threads that have been closed or reported...............

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2016 #9

    I agree completely HD, it's easy to disagree without the animosity. It's the will to debate rather than needle or attack. The will needs to be there. I support your OP 100%, for what it's worth. If things get heated we can all walk away from the threadHappy

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2016 #10

    I also agree.  There is far too much sniping by people who stalk others around the board merely to make snide comments. 

    Debate is good, arguments for the sake of it lead to unpleasantness. 

  • tigerfish
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    edited September 2016 #11

    100% support for the View expressed in the OP

    TF

  • brue
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    edited September 2016 #12

    I support the OP too, if only some would stop responding to certain posts there would be a better outcome..

  • Kennine
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    edited September 2016 #13

    I agree with the OP. Everybody should be able to honestly put forward their opinion without the usual personal remarks or insults by ---- OOPS we are no longer allowed to use collective names so I won't. . Innocent.

     I also agree about the school playground analogy. But I don't find that surprising --- Considering !! Wink

    Cool

  • moulesy
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    edited September 2016 #14

    HD - an excellent OP.

    CT is overwhelmingly a pleasant forum with positive views and a good source of information, particularly for newcomers to the hobby.

    Threads sometimes get heated because of ill considered or unclear posting. The relatively rare examples of deliberately antagonistic posting seem to get removed fairly quickly.

    It's incumbent on all members to respect the views of others and not attempt to stir up ill feeling where none exists.

    Well done for opening this thread!

  • Kerry Watkins
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    edited September 2016 #15

    I quite agree HD. People should have respect for others point of view and agree to disagree. There should be no room for personal comments, not just here but throughout society.

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited September 2016 #16

    There is a significant difference though between, respecting the right of others to have a different point of view and respecting that point of view!

    Whilst people should respect the former, they are under no obligation to respect the latter!

    And that is a very important right in itself!

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited September 2016 #17

    Altough I agree with the OP, I wonder how many new members on CT think that these comments reflect the overall membership and think that when they are on a site it is not very friendly.

    I must admit that after being at the receiving end of some comments I wonder if, because my photo is on here I might get some comments when on a site! I hope not.

  • volvoman9
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    edited September 2016 #18

    I,m with the OP on this one.

    v9

  • moulesy
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    edited September 2016 #19

    There is a significant difference though between, respecting the right of others to have a different point of view and respecting that point of view!

    Whilst people should respect the former, they are under no obligation to respect the latter!

    And that is a very important right in itself!

    Yes, CJ, I agree. Perhaps I should more accurately have said "... respect the rights of others to express their views", so long as they're within the bounds of common decency, of course.

  • Metheven
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    edited September 2016 #20

    Can't argue with that HD, also agree with 'a road to Damascus' with you. Wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2016 #21

    Agree with HD's opening post. A couple of threads last night descended way below playground childishness into gutter comments and foul language, and were quite rightly stamped on by the mods. Absolutely no need for such behaviour, and even if you don't agree
    with someone else's methods or suggestions, this is not the place to parade such nastiness. Sad

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited September 2016 #22

    Can't argue with that HD, also agree with 'a road to Damascus' with you. Wink

    The actual road to Damascus....just saying! Don't cry

    Image result for destruction on the road to Damascus

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2016 #23

    I agree with the OP. Everybody should be able to honestly put forward their opinion without the usual personal remarks or insults by ----
    OOPS we are no longer allowed to use collective names so I won't. .
    Innocent.

     I also agree about the school playground analogy. But I don't find that surprising --- Considering !! Wink

    Cool

    K, I am reporting your post. But I am going to be quite open and honest about doing it, and let you read the reason why. You are actively trying to create unpleasantness and divisions amongst what you consider to be " groups" of posters. Not only  in this
    instance, but quite openly on a good few other threads. The vast majority of individual posters on here may not agree all the time about everything, but on the whole, most of us rub along together, sharing the odd quip, chuckling at the odd bit of humour.
    But your talk of groups, cliques, them and us, hidden behind a rather transparent ( you think) mask of affability is wearing thin, and is starting to say a great deal about you, and your agenda. I want to show you respect, because I I know you have a deal
    of knowledge and help to share, but this relentless drive to  sow the seeds of discord are not fair, and on the whole not welcome. You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone, but you are not entitled to manipulate discussions to create unpleasantness or
    throw in little hooks, hoping that someone will bite. Perhaps I have taken your bait, I don't know, but I honestly and openly hope that this will give pause for thought. I apologise for doing this in this method if it upsets anyone else, that is not my intention.

    I shall now press the report button, showing your post, and my thoughts on it, and hope that HQ will understand.

  • Mitsi Fendt
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    edited September 2016 #24

    Agree with all of the above. Everyone has a point of view and there will never be total agreement but in a grown up debate  between mature adults should be on a polite and civil basis. Regrettably there are some who hide behind the anominity of social media. 

  • huskydog
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    edited September 2016 #25

    Can't argue with that HD, also agree with 'a road to Damascus' with you. Wink

    Have i been rude or offensive to anyone??? ,i hope not , or is that not what you mean with that comment, i might be thick ,but i dont get it............Cool

  • Kennine
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    edited September 2016 #26

    I agree with the OP. Everybody should be able to honestly put forward their opinion without the usual personal remarks or insults by ---- OOPS we are no longer allowed to use collective names so I won't. . Innocent.

     I also agree about the school playground analogy. But I don't find that surprising --- Considering !! Wink

    Cool

    K, I am reporting your post. But I am going to be quite open and honest about doing it, and let you read the reason why. You are actively trying to create unpleasantness and divisions amongst what you consider to be " groups" of posters. Not only  in this instance, but quite openly on a good few other threads. The vast majority of individual posters on here may not agree all the time about everything, but on the whole, most of us rub along together, sharing the odd quip, chuckling at the odd bit of humour. But your talk of groups, cliques, them and us, hidden behind a rather transparent ( you think) mask of affability is wearing thin, and is starting to say a great deal about you, and your agenda. I want to show you respect, because I I know you have a deal of knowledge and help to share, but this relentless drive to  sow the seeds of discord are not fair, and on the whole not welcome. You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone, but you are not entitled to manipulate discussions to create unpleasantness or throw in little hooks, hoping that someone will bite. Perhaps I have taken your bait, I don't know, but I honestly and openly hope that this will give pause for thought. I apologise for doing this in this method if it upsets anyone else, that is not my intention.

    I shall now press the report button, showing your post, and my thoughts on it, and hope that HQ will understand.

    Write your comments here...You are quite within your rights to report any posts which contravene the CC T@C's 

    However it is you who have used the forbidden words in your post Your writing quote "  groups, cliques, them and us, " most definitely goes against the instructions of the forum manager.  You should therefore be obliged to report your own post. 

    It will be noticed that I complied completely with the forum managers instructions and quite rightly refrained from using any collective nouns to describe anyone. . 

    My post was "tongue in cheek" containing a bit of humour -  most reasonable posters will recognise this.  

    Obviously humour is something some people like and others abhorr. 

    I suspect there is more behind your vitriolic post than the few words of my post which are perfectly innocent and compliant with the current T&C's and if this is the case, your post  is a clear case of Trolling. 

    Forums are for exchange of ideas and information, please don't make this one a place for vitriol and insults. 

    Cool

     

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2016 #27

    K, TDA's post is a good one. She has put Her case forward & shown you the respect of informing you of Her actions. Your follow up post shows She did the right thing.

  • huskydog
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    edited September 2016 #28

    Oh dear, i'm going to put my head on the block ,and saw K's post as tongue in cheek........i'll go and stand in the cornerEmbarassed

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2016 #29

    Oh dear, i'm going to put my head on the block ,and saw K's post as tongue in cheek........i'll go and stand in the cornerEmbarassed

    HD, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Heads on blocks don't come into itHappy

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2016 #30

    Thank you Rocky. I didn't post lightly, and despite not agreeing with what quoted post, I tried to remain respectful and honest. I have no wish to continue posting in this thread now I have said what I felt needed saying without any hidden agenda, deceitful
    smileys or twisting of words. Happy

  • ChemicalJasper
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    edited September 2016 #31

    .....I go get some lunch and look what happens! Surprised