Increase size of CLs?

Could the empty ones not have EHU and hard standing and cant afford the update due to limited size?Not talking about a wholescale change but those with sufficient room and wanting to increase their income cold benefit.Again more choice, The alternative as
we see monthly in the Mag is more closures.

Could the empty ones not have EHU and hard standing and cant afford the update due to limited size?Not talking about a wholescale change but those with sufficient room and wanting to increase their income cold benefit.Again more choice, The alternative as
we see monthly in the Mag is more closures.

Write your comments here...Then the cost per night rises and they loose customers.

Are they empty because they expect customers to beat a path to their door? 

What active marketing are they doing. Are they offering a usp? Do they email previous customers letting then know about local events that might be of interest? Have they even asked for an email address? 

There are some CL owners on CT that regularly post keeping the CL name in the public eye. That's the way to do it. 

Good for you Nicola. 

A quick perusal of the CL pages on this very website will show large numbers of CL sites that cannot even be bothered to put up a photo!  I don't buy the argument that so many don't know how to work a computer. For the very few that genuinely don't they
can soon find someone. No, they just cannot be bothered and that's fine with me because I happen to like a CL all to myself. 

Are they empty because they expect customers to beat a path to their door? 

What active marketing are they doing. Are they offering a usp? Do they email previous customers letting then know about local events that might be of interest? Have they even asked for an email address? 

There are some CL owners on CT that regularly post keeping the CL name in the public eye. That's the way to do it. 

Couldn't agree more Fysherman! And for what it's worth, I'm perfectly happy with 5 vans and have no intention of increasing the number (legitimately
or otherwise) even though I regularly turn people away because my CL is full.

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I am always intrigued to read about the massive expense it is to put in Hard Standings, Electric and Water.  With a little bit of thought you put your underground electric and water pipes spaced out in the area at the bottom of the Hard Standings, fill with
rubble that a local builder or skip hire company want to get rid of, sometimes delivering free, and blind off with clean 20mm gravel  for maybe £300 / £500  and the expense of hiring a JCB for a day or so, and you might even be able to sell the clean top soil
to an avid gardener.  You then need an electrician to couple wires and certify. Water connections are easily done by any handyman with Alkathene piping.  Not really too difficult if you don't make it too fancy.

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Somebody somewhere a long time ago must have come up with a figure of 5 caravans but was it purely an arbitrary number plucked from the air? Personally I think the number allowed should be based on the usable size of the CL. I've been to some where 5 seems
very crowded and others where many more outfits could be pitched and stil have many times more space per outfit than one gets at a CC site.

In the last couple of weeks we have stayed on two different CLs in Cornwall , one was 0.75 acre and the other 1.0 acre. Both could easily accommodate more and in both cases had power supplies for more outfits. 

I don't advocate an unlimited number but I'm sure increasing it from 5 to 6 outfits, but only where space allows, would be helpful to both the CL owner in terms of revenue and to us caravanners /  motorhomers by giving increased pitch availability.

Finally a bit of Common sense ?

As a CL owner there are perhaps some hidden costs which I know won't apply to everyone, especially farms, but certainly affect a site like ours, house insurance costs have tripled as you no longer qualify for residential rates and I have recently been unable
to renew my mortgage to a low rate, in fact Santander would not give me a mortgage, as my property is no longer regarded as residential but as a business this just would not be worth it with the average occupancy of 250 nights booked as quoted on this forum.
 

Instead of looking at the legislation the club is happier to promote Haven which provides all singing all dancing pitches off season (when CC and Cls are at their quietest).No wonder Cls close when you can have an Europitch in Haven at £9-90 per night in
May all in.  I know that the mjority of Cl closures are as a result of going "commercial" and its easy to get the planning even in a NatPark. for tourists

Write your comments here...But that is Haven offering the discounts that are available to anyone it is not the CC so whats your point?

Fisherman said "I know that the mjority of Cl closures are as a result of going "commercial" and its easy to get the planning even in a NatPark. for tourists"

Why do you believe that closures are because of going commercial? Have I missed something?It would be interesting to know why sites close but until the CC publish the reasons as they used to I suspect we will never know.

Fisherman said "I know that the mjority of Cl closures are as a result of going "commercial" and its easy to get the planning even in a NatPark. for tourists"

Why do you believe that closures are because of going commercial? Have I missed something?It would be interesting to know why sites close but until the CC publish the reasons as they used to I suspect we will never know.

 At least one of the recent CL closures has gone to 15 vans, still on their original site. Paxton House in the Scottish Borders. A favourite of Nelliethehooker.    Kellysmum

Why can't we just leave things as they are????

Is it too much to ask that members abide by the rules that they agreed to by joining the CC???

As is usual on this forum, the tail wants to wag the dog.

Well said Brian. I for one am also happy to leave things as they are as it seems to work well.

Me too!!

And me!

Me too. 

Fisherman said "I know that the mjority of Cl closures are as a result of going "commercial" and its easy to get the planning even in a NatPark. for tourists"

Why do you believe that closures are because of going commercial? Have I missed something?It would be interesting to know why sites close but until the CC publish the reasons as they used to I suspect we will never know.

 At least one of the recent CL closures has gone to 15 vans, still on their original site. Paxton House in the Scottish Borders. A favourite of Nelliethehooker.    Kellysmum

I noticed that it had closed, and did wonder if it was because it had gone commercial. The field is quite large, but I would think that it would be a bit of a tight squeeze to fit 15 vans in there. Unless they've put in road and hard standings it could very
well be a bit muddy if wet, and it always rains in Scotland, doesn't it

Brian I also thought 15 on the same area might be a bit tight and no sign on their webpage of HS. NO it doesn't always rain in Scotland it just seems like it ! Lovely warm day here today but black clouds hovering later in the afternoon which thankfully passed
us by !