Are CLs really members only
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That they were losing money doesn't surprise me ocsid. The facilities I remember were very swish, and outside of BHs, sites were never that busy. FC were good at growing trees, but marketing sites required a bit more to increase usage.
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That they were losing money doesn't surprise me ocsid. The facilities I remember were very swish, and outside of BHs, sites were never that busy. FC were good at growing trees, but marketing sites required a bit more to increase usage.
Not all of the Forestry sites had swish facilities. There's one in Cannock Chase with none what so ever. It's not been turned over to the C&CC, though. The site at Postern Hill, now under C&CC control, only has an old fashioned toilet block with no showers.
That site does have a lot of seasonal pitches which are taken up every year.0 -
Back to CLs, we use them a lot, 46 in total last year alone, and whenever we phone a booking we are asked for our membership number on virtually all occasions. When I book on-line I always supply my membership number when inquiring about availability, and
if the CL has it's own on-line booking system one has to supply ones membership number along with your other details.0 -
I'd say they were the clever ones PD
if it was a long line of-'I always ask for the Member number' they'd be shot down. If it was-'I'm
happy to welcome non Members' they'd be shot down & censured
lose/lose I'm afraid. Yup they're too clever to post0 -
I am surprised a few more CL owners have not commented on this thread. Low profile or what?
peedee
Write your comments here...don't think there are any cl owners on ct. From the topics and discussions I have read it seems to be the same few people posting across all topics.
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I am surprised a few more CL owners have not commented on this thread. Low profile or what?
peedee
Write your comments here...don't think there are any cl owners on ct. From the topics and discussions I have read it seems to be the same few people posting across all topics.
Write your comments here...I for one have a CL and posted early on. I ask for CC number on booking, there is no way that I can proove the name and number given is the person making the booking, unless you know different.
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In my experience of running a CL for 28 years we have always asked for membership numbers and can even check with the CC if we are not sure about the member as there is no photo ID they can be borrowed and misused. We only take 5 caravans and abide by the
CC rules. Why would I want to take someone who isn't a member and why would I put the certificate at risk for a total stranger? I am not insured to take more than 5 and a non member would certainly not be covered by my insurance on my site.0 -
I am surprised a few more CL owners have not commented on this thread. Low profile or what?
peedee
Write your comments here...don't think there are any cl owners on ct. From the topics and discussions I have read it seems to be the same few people posting across all topics.
Write your comments here... There are actually five either with a CL or related to someone with a CL on this thread alone, so you are getting some CL owners responding, and telling members their experiences.
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...... and I for one appreciate them lending out there land to me to enjoy
Not everyone wants to carve up a CL and its owner.Write your comments here...absolutely! Long may they do so!
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I am surprised a few more CL owners have not commented on this thread. Low profile or what?
peedee
Write your comments here...don't think there are any cl owners on ct. From the topics and discussions I have read it seems to be the same few people posting across all topics.
rw, there are at least 10 CL owners that post on CT on a fairly regular basis. How do I know.....well, we've visited 7 or more of them.
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In my experience of running a CL for 28 years we have always asked for membership numbers and can even check with the CC if we are not sure about the member as there is no photo ID they can be borrowed and misused. We only take 5 caravans and abide by the
CC rules. Why would I want to take someone who isn't a member and why would I put the certificate at risk for a total stranger? I am not insured to take more than 5 and a non member would certainly not be covered by my insurance on my site.Well said oakapple, It's a great shame that so many people join the CC only to be hell bent on bending the rules to suit their own selfish ends.
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In my experience of running a CL for 28 years we have always asked for membership numbers and can even check with the CC if we are not sure about the member as there is no photo ID they can be borrowed and misused. We only take 5 caravans and abide by the
CC rules. Why would I want to take someone who isn't a member and why would I put the certificate at risk for a total stranger? I am not insured to take more than 5 and a non member would certainly not be covered by my insurance on my site.Well said oakapple, It's a great shame that so many people join the CC only to be hell bent on bending the rules to suit their own selfish ends.
Can't agree more. Even worse are those that think they can use the CLs without joining.
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In my experience of running a CL for 28 years we have always asked for membership numbers and can even check with the CC if we are not sure about the member as there is no photo ID they can be borrowed and misused. We only take 5 caravans and abide by the
CC rules. Why would I want to take someone who isn't a member and why would I put the certificate at risk for a total stranger? I am not insured to take more than 5 and a non member would certainly not be covered by my insurance on my site.Well said oakapple, It's a great shame that so many people join the CC only to be hell bent on bending the rules to suit their own selfish ends.
Can't agree more. Even worse are those that think they can use the CLs without joining.
I agree totally. Guess they're the ones,too, that think that speed limits are for others and just ignore them.
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In my experience of running a CL for 28 years we have always asked for membership numbers and can even check with the CC if we are not sure about the member as there is no photo ID they can be borrowed and misused. We only take 5 caravans and abide by the
CC rules. Why would I want to take someone who isn't a member and why would I put the certificate at risk for a total stranger? I am not insured to take more than 5 and a non member would certainly not be covered by my insurance on my site.Well said oakapple, It's a great shame that so many people join the CC only to be hell bent on bending the rules to suit their own selfish ends.
Can't agree more. Even worse are those that think they can use the CLs without joining.
I agree totally. Guess they're the ones,too, that think that speed limits are for others and just ignore them.
Thank goodness the selfish ones are in the minority
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In my experience of running a CL for 28 years we have always asked for membership numbers and can even check with the CC if we are not sure about the member as there is no photo ID they can be borrowed and misused. We only take 5 caravans and abide by the
CC rules. Why would I want to take someone who isn't a member and why would I put the certificate at risk for a total stranger? I am not insured to take more than 5 and a non member would certainly not be covered by my insurance on my site.I'd fully agree. We always ask for a CC membership number when people book with us by phone or email, and we will likely change our on-line booking system this year so that we can take the CC number. If we are in any doubt over a member's details we can
check the CC membership number is valid directly with the club using a 24-hour Text Message facility. This new innovation is pretty handy, although probably not as widely used as it could be. All the signage for CL's states clearly that it is 'Members Only'
and the certification process also makes it clear that the CL owner is responsible for checking that visitors are members.0 -
Thank you all for your comments and for contributing to this discussion. The Caravan Club has a fantastic network of CL Sites and we are really pleased that we are able to offer these sites to our members. Operating the CL network is a privilege offered to The Club on specific conditions which include that they are intended solely for Caravan Club member’s recreational use only. As such all CL Sites are member only, without exception, and this is a requirement of the exemption in (commitment we have made under) the 1960 Act of Parliament. We clearly and frequently communicate to CL owners that they must ensure their sites are member only, and this is also repeated on each and every annual CL certificate we issue.
All CL owners are asked to check membership numbers and can contact The Club if they have any concerns. We have a dedicated CL team who work hard to support CL owners, and a new service we introduced last year allows CL Owners to text The Club to check that a membership number is current and valid; this works 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Ensuring that CL Sites remain for the benefit of only members is something we take very seriously, and we hope that members too can protect their network of CLs, firstly by quoting their membership number on booking and remembering to take their current Club cards to CLs when they stay, but by also reporting any concerns over non-members for us to investigate. We cannot be everywhere at all times which is why we ask members to bring anything untoward or any concerns to our attention via the clresponse@caravanclub.co.uk mailbox.
I hope this clears up any confusion and that members can continue to support our wonderful CL Site network and the hard work and dedication of our CL owners.
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Thanks Ted and Rowena, it is good to know it is definitely a member only perk and you have a method of checking, many of us doubted this including me who has only ever been asked for membership once in 20 plus years.
peedee
Write your comments here...We only use CL sites in the UK and never go to club or commercial sites. Every single CL owner since 1976 has asked us for our memebership number when we have made our booking.
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Most of the CLs we book on the phone do ask us for our membership no.although a few do not. I do however offer my number when making my booking.
Thanks Ro for giving the definitive explaination of CC membership requirements re CLs.
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Am at present on a CL in Lancashire where I was requested to register in a log book when paying.. name,address, phone no. & membership no. etc. No problem as far as I was concerned! The funny thing was that the owner did not as to see my membership card,
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I don’t know what the official line is but imagine that buried in the terms of their exemption from local planning restraints is a need for them to be used by members of the holding certificate only. I’d not be the least surprised to find non-members on
a site, however. Many CL owners do not check for membership cards and would be reluctant to turn away business.Write your comments here...Whilst I have had to quote my membership number when booking I can't remember the last time I showed it to a CL owner.
I regularly turn away business as I only want Caravan Club members on my site. My insurance covers members only and it helps screen out potential problems. We find that people prepared to pay their membership into a club, are more respectful of the rules.
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If you want to come onto my site then you have to be a member, simple!
When I started 18 years ago I would admit that when we asked for membership numbers as part of the booking process a lot said that they had never been asked before and often had to go upstairs to find their cards. These days almost everybody has their number to hand. All numbers are checked against the CC database and so far this year 59 bookings and 59 valid numbers. I did get 1 email enquiry last week from somebody who did not provide a number on their initial enquiry. I asked for their number and they said they weren't members and apologised for wasting my time.
As a caravanner (only for 4 years) I've stayed on 21 CLs and have been asked for my number for at least 10 of the sites.
Given the numbers that say they have never been asked you begin to wonder whether there is some sort of parallel universe in operation as, from both sides of the fence, it's not my experience!
Alan
PS this was a response to hooker128 and I see that their post has just been removed!
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