Are CLs really members only
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Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
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Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
Sounds good. Things are improving. That's just how B&Bs work. Open to all who book and pay.
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If I decide to use a CL and I am the 6th unit I have no problem with that. If I have space to pitch, access to all I need then I am not outraged at all. It is my choice to stay or go. I will not be reporting the CL owner when I am not inconvenienced. I rent
a small space for a short time, the CL owner makes the decisions not me, if I suffer in any way I will not use the CL again-it really is that simple. If others want to get all excited because they've poured over the 'rules' & see a petty infringement then
that is their choice, I'm for an easy & enjoyable life.0 -
Hear, hear! I had composed a reply saying much the same, but a phone call interrupted me and of course I was timed out!
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Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
Sounds good. Things are improving. That's just how B&Bs work. Open to all who book and pay.
Write your comments here...I agree it is an improvement but the only reason I pay my membership is the access to the cl network so theoretically I don't need to be a member
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The CC rules do not allow non-members to use CLs. Any CL owner who allows it is liable to lose his certificate.Even though the law would allow non-members the Club does not.
Thank you Andy. However I get the impression the Club and CL owners are not too heavy handed in applying the ruling.
peedee
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Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
That is rather a sweeping statement if you don't mind me saying so RW, especially as in our experience you are more likely to be asked if you are a member than not. Good for you though supporting a CL for 21 dayside February, and paying a deposit. Just hope
the weather holds for you now.
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The CL owner does not have a choice as regards breaking the terms of the exemption agreement
with the authorities (not The CC), if he accepts non members.That is not how I read the guidance Vulcan.
“Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.”
To me that says it is down to the Club who certify the site as to what is imposed with the agreement of the landowner.
I appreciate it is normal to involve the council in the decision to grant a certificate but what if the Land owner does not agree to the restriction? There is at least one Club who does not impose any restrictions, the MCC
What I am really trying to get at is what is the CC policy and is this consistently applied across the CL network because as many of us are aware very little checks are actually made and most of us know someone who has used a CL/CS and have not been members.
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I take your point peedee however, CC policy is quite clear regarding members only on CL's, in an ideal world these rules would be self policing. I do wonder why people join the CC when they clearly abhor the rules.
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Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
That is rather a sweeping statement if you don't mind me saying so RW, especially as in our experience you are more likely to be asked if you are a member than not. Good for you though supporting a CL for 21 dayside February, and paying a deposit. Just hope
the weather holds for you now.Write your comments here...
Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
That is rather a sweeping statement if you don't mind me saying so RW, especially as in our experience you are more likely to be asked if you are a member than not. Good for you though supporting a CL for 21 dayside February, and paying a deposit. Just hope
the weather holds for you now.Write your comments here...it's not a sweeping statement as we have stayed on cl sites all over the country and can only remember being asked a couple of times about my membership. I don't mind who cl owners let on their sites, my point is I only stay a
member for the cl sites so why should I continue if I can get access for free0 -
Like you, we use CL mainly and have had different experiences, which perhaps leads you into your last question. I know why we pay our membership fee, but obviously can't answer for you.
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Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
That is rather a sweeping statement if you don't mind me saying so RW, especially as in our experience you are more likely to be asked if you are a member than not. Good for you though supporting a CL for 21 dayside February, and paying a deposit. Just hope the weather holds for you now.
Write your comments here...
Hi I have just booked a cl for 21 nights in Feb and wasn't asked if I was a member just to send a deposit. Goes to prove it's all about the money
That is rather a sweeping statement if you don't mind me saying so RW, especially as in our experience you are more likely to be asked if you are a member than not. Good for you though supporting a CL for 21 dayside February, and paying a deposit. Just hope the weather holds for you now.
Write your comments here...it's not a sweeping statement as we have stayed on cl sites all over the country and can only remember being asked a couple of times about my membership. I don't mind who cl owners let on their sites, my point is I only stay a member for the cl sites so why should I continue if I can get access for free
Write your comments here...What ever cl we stay on we have always been asked for our mem no ,and out of curtacy to the owner show our card when paying,but then we are of the dying breed of people who show any respect of anything
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Why did you join, if you don't mind me asking DD? Was it for some other aspect rather than CL access?
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Same as us then really! We joined C&CC to check out their sites one year (only place available in area we needed), and of course got the Big Sites Book listing CS's as well. As we were taking camping breaks as well, this came in very handy, as most of the
CS had a loo and a shower, whilst most CLs at the time were more basic and tended to have neither, so not that good for camping! We still have that BiG Book, but probably a decade and a half out of date! But we still use some C&CC Listed Sites, in fact our
favourite place of last year was a Listed one! We didn't like the only C&CC site we used, not really our cup of tea, so didn't rejoin.0 -
If we have one touring regret, it is that those wonderful sites run by the Forestry Commission (Beddgelert, Spiers House etc...) are now no longer as they were, but are now very commercial with all the multitude of rules and regs and appropriate large price
tag. They were very special, and great value.0 -
If we have one touring regret, it is that those wonderful sites run by the Forestry Commission (Beddgelert, Spiers House etc...) are now no longer as they were, but are now very commercial with all the multitude of rules and regs and appropriate large price
tag. They were very special, and great value.The are now 72 percent owned by the C&CC!
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Going back to the question "Are CL's really members only?" How do those that advocate that they should be feel about some CL's and CS's allowing campers to stay for long periods? I know of a few example where some vans used by people working locally to
the site are there for months at a time. I have no problem with it but it must surely be in contravention of some rule or another - shock horror!To be absolutely honest, we have never worried about aspects that don't affect us directly, so have no experience of whether or not everyone is a member or none member, if they are working from CL, or if their stay is longer than it should be. We have to
rely upon the CL owners to conduct their business as they should, much as the conscientious owners have to trust visiting members to be mindful of behaviour and not take advantage. If something did impact upon our stay, let's say seven or eight vans in the
CL area, and it affected electricity usage, then I would be discussing something like this with the owners, as it is not what is expected. But we are quite chilled out about most things, we just go to enjoy ourselves as much as we can and don't worry about
what or who others are if it doesn't affect us.As I mentioned previously, it does state clearly on the CL webpage that CC CL's are exclusive to members, and as far as I am aware, each individual site page says the same. So the Club has taken the decision that this will be an operating condition, not
the CL owner. We are happy to pay Membership fee, as we easily save it back over a year's holidaying. Last year we were out some 150-160 nights, and our average night fee was probably around the £12-£13 region, so you are looking at a few pence extra from
adding on Membership fee.0 -
Only once asked for my membership card in all the years. The whole system is 50 years out of date. The Government agencies, Local Authorities, Nat Park organisations dont give a hoot who stays on Cl sites and dont have any resources to check them. The owners
find it hard enough to cover costs and are quite happy toaccept anyone. I dont blame them at all. If the club does not wake up they may find the Cl network run by anther organisation.I know the NFU is actively looking at expanding into this area and as most
Cls are farm based I can se the owners temptation.0 -
We would welcome a third provider of small sites! We take most of our UK holidays on farms, cottages, B and B as well as camping and touring.
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If we have one touring regret, it is that those wonderful sites run by the Forestry Commission (Beddgelert, Spiers House etc...) are now no longer as they were, but are now very commercial with all the multitude of rules and regs and appropriate large price tag. They were very special, and great value.
The are now 72 percent owned by the C&CC!
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Write your comments here...Are they owened by ccc or do they run them on behalf of forestry commision
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We would welcome a third provider of small sites! We take most of our UK holidays on farms, cottages, B and B as well as camping and touring.
Hello TTDA, Yes, much as we do. And you and I have often recommended small independent sites which were once a CL or a CS but have spread their wings.
I can understand the thinking of those owners of small caravan sites who want to attract customers who are in the "wrong" club, or in no club at all. I admire people running a small home business.
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We have found some lovely small independent sites, slightly larger than CLs. Out of peak seasons, they can often be "negotiated" with regarding prices, depending upon length of stay, what you want to use, such as EHU or none EHU, or size of outfit. We are
just a small MH, self sufficient so get some great prices.0 -
Fursdon Farm here in Cornwall is one such.
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If we have one touring regret, it is that those wonderful sites run by the Forestry Commission (Beddgelert, Spiers House etc...) are now no longer as they were, but are now very commercial with all the multitude of rules and regs and appropriate large price
tag. They were very special, and great value.The are now 72 percent owned by the C&CC!
peedee
Write your comments here...Are they owened by ccc or do they run them on behalf of forestry commision
They are now called "Camping In The Forest ", and as far as I am aware, you book via C&CC, with all the variety of pitch sizes, "do you want this, do you want that?" shenanigans. Back when we used them, you either had hook up or not, that was the only difference
in price, and you pitched where you liked or as far as your cable would reach! Marvellous, those were the days!Unlikely C&CC owns them, they are Forestry Commission land. But I could be wrong.
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Back when we used them, you either had hook up or not,
25 years ago we always stayed on Roundhill site in the New Forest, now that was proper caravanning but I don't remember it having any facilities beyond chemical toilets. We would love to go back there one day, we just hope they haven't spoiled it!
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Never used NF sites WG. Just had a look at Beddgelert, for a small pitch with EHU , mid February, they want approximately £22 per night! Not for us at that price, especially as we would no doubt be told where we had to pitch. That is price via CITF website,
so not sure if C&CC members get it cheaper. One would hope so!0 -
As I recall the Forestry Commission sites were losing money so were offered out to managing companies, the C&CC won that tender.
As they were losing money, it comes little surprise to me that the price has gone up since those far off days.
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