Dogs that can be dangerous
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I heard of some people who shouldn't have bought a puppy. Took it from the breeder at 8 weeks old. 2 weeks later it was back because it "chewed stuff", My daughter was recently asked by a prospective puppy purchaser how long it took to train? No sale!
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Pip, spot on
. I had 6 pups a few years ago, 5 of them found homes I chose, from those 5, 4 of them keep contact. I rejected at least
10 potential new homes due to the lack of experience or common sense or not being Dog oriented. I had at least 3 meetings & numerous mails. They're not just Dogs they're family. Your daughter is my kind of Dog owner. You've brought up a gud un
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Thanks Rocky - she does work hard at it - last month she had a pup to stay while the new owners went on holiday - and they were worried about the weight of the pup - at 6 months it weighed 19kg - not much for a lab maybe but the mother only weighs 23kg - and the father wasn't big either - but this lady's vet had worried her that it was underweight for its age! She is a slightly strange shaped pup though having gone from being one of the biggest girl pups - her legs stopped growing! Bit like a Dexter cow perhaps! At least the owners love her - and are happy to ask advice. My daughter would take her back in the blink of an eye if they made the wrong noises too. I have had to take back one pup I sold some years ago - I had a bad feeling about the home but the woman was insistant she knew what she was doing with GSDs. The dog lived with me till she was 16.5 years old - not bad for a big breed! That woman - or more likely her son - turned that dog into a wreck that was definitely capable of causing damage - but she didn't get the chance once I had her back.
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IMO there are NO naturally bad dogs. There are however bad owners who. cant be bothered to teach their dog what is unacceptable and acceptable behavior. . They only have themselves to blame when their dog.bites a person or rips furniture apart.
K
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Right Kenine that GSD I took back had destroyed 11 pairs of curtains! And neither the paperboy or the Postie would deliver to that house unless the dog was inside. Unfortunately it doesn't help the victims if the owners are at fault. I do believe there
should be some form of protection to the general public from irresponsible owners.0 -
as most will be aware two people have died this week from injuries sustained by dogs and im sure you will join me in extending condolancies to their families, i have deliberately titled this thread this way because i believe that the dogs are only dangerous
if allowed to be sometimes "deliberately" others by pure chance,eg it makes a bid for freedom by chance,never the less any death that could have been prevented is one too many,and before the doggy people attack me, the question (debate) is should the law now
be tightened as to what type of dogs people are allowed to keep and penalties for owners of dogs that are not controlled properly as i believe most doGoing back to the OP. No changes to the law are going to make irresponsible dog owners responsible. We live in a society that is controlling enough without diminishing freedom even further. Breed specific legislation has been discredited over the past
few years and does nothing to tackle the issue of dangerous dogs. A Jack Russell or West Highland White Terrier can just as easily become vicious and bite. Have a look at the figures on which dogs are most likely to bite their owners - they show the
Labrador has the worst record.....!.0 -
Some weeks go we were on the Clumber Park caravan site, a large area set within a National Trust property. Unfortunately on an otherwise peaceful afternoon we were surrounded by the sound of dogs - what a nuisance to say the least - I don't like dogs at
the best of times. Barking dogs, yelping dogs, whining dogs. If I wanted to spend my leisure time in a 'dog kennels' I would. So on a quick count there were eleven dogs in close proximity to us. So on the site there must have been a least a hundred dogs of
all types shapes and sizes. Dog nightmare. Strangely far more dogs on site than children - very sad for the future of the Caravan Club.I understand that dogs are allowed to stay for free - Caravan Club missing a revenue stream here.
Why can't a large site like Clumber Park have a segregated area for dog owners, and leave the rest of us in peace, safety and quiet.
I noticed one dog owner allow her small dog which was on an extendable lead to wander onto another caravans hardstanding pitch to 'deposit'. The owner then went onto the pitch to 'plastic bag' the contents. How disgusting can you get ?
The reason for my mistrust of dogs - when I was a teenager, a friend of mine went to pet a dog, whilst I stood away. The attack that followed by the dog, which took no more than a minute, left him in hospital for a week to recover all of his wounds. He never
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I agree with the last person comments, there are just too many dogs on site, as they said, there appears more dog than people. perhaps with should rename the club to Caravan and Dog Club as it seems their are as many dogs as vans, I think the club should
realise that not everybody likes dogs and should be segregated, its not just the dogs its the stuff they leave behind.0 -
The club 'should' realise..... Should they really? That's your opinion, HH, but please don't presume to tell CC, or the rest of us, how things should work.
We are getting way off topic now. Perhaps HH and Keens haven't seen the sticky thread in UK sites about caravanning with dogs. The Community Manager's opening post in that thread is well worth reading.
Happy to help.
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I agree with the last person comments, there are just too many dogs on site, as they said, there appears more dog than people. perhaps with should rename the club to Caravan and Dog Club as it seems their are as many dogs as vans, I think the club should realise that not everybody likes dogs and should be segregated, its not just the dogs its the stuff they leave behind.
Write your comments here...I have to disagree with you about the number of dogs on sites. The CC do allow customers to bring their dogs to their campsites. The dog owners are doing nothing wrong in doing so.
Most of us on this forum will disagree in an agreeable way, . Unfortunately you appear to have been subjected to, IMO, a very agressive post from a previous poster.
Quote from that post "The club 'should' realise..... Should they really? That's your opinion, HH, but please don't presume to tell CC, or the rest of us, how things should work".
The subject of dogs can bring out strong emotions as we can all see. But individuals should be entitled to express their views in a friendly way.--- It is written into the Forum's T&C's.
K
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I think the club would loose a lot of money if they started charging for dogs, I for one would walk. What would help in my opinion is enforcing of the rules on responsible behaviour on dog owners. One site I stayed on this year had clear notices that not
clearing up after your dog would result in being asked to leave. An AS site I think.0 -
Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs, not all dogs? I was brought up to 'live and let live' in a society which contains all sorts and types of people (including children!), dogs, chickens and a myriad of
other animals. Regrettably, many debates on this site revert to suggestions to 'ban' or 'charge for' things that the poster does not personally like. Some of the previous posts on this thread fall into that category.
If it was me, I would ask for 'grumpy old so and so's' to be banned from all Caravan Club sites in the interests of the majority. I would be interested to know how many people agree?0 -
Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs, not all dogs? I was brought up to 'live and let live' in a society which contains all sorts and types of people (including children!), dogs, chickens and a myriad of
other animals. Regrettably, many debates on this site revert to suggestions to 'ban' or 'charge for' things that the poster does not personally like. Some of the previous posts on this thread fall into that category.
If it was me, I would ask for 'grumpy old so and so's' to be banned from all Caravan Club sites in the interests of the majority. I would be interested to know how many people agree?+1
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I think the club should realise that not everybody likes dogs and should be segregated,
Can I offer a slight correction here? "The CC must take into account that .....". It is a straightforward Health and Safety issue. If it was anything else causing noise polution, smearing the ground with fecal matter, or causing people to be
in fear of moving about outside it would be being dealt with by the courts with considerable fines.0 -
Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs, not all dogs? I was brought up to 'live and let live' in a society which contains all sorts and types of people (including children!), dogs, chickens and a myriad of
other animals. Regrettably, many debates on this site revert to suggestions to 'ban' or 'charge for' things that the poster does not personally like. Some of the previous posts on this thread fall into that category.
If it was me, I would ask for 'grumpy old so and so's' to be banned from all Caravan Club sites in the interests of the majority. I would be interested to know how many people agree?+1
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Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs, not all dogs? I was brought up to 'live and let live' in a society which contains all sorts and types of people (including children!), dogs, chickens and a myriad of
other animals. Regrettably, many debates on this site revert to suggestions to 'ban' or 'charge for' things that the poster does not personally like. Some of the previous posts on this thread fall into that category.
If it was me, I would ask for 'grumpy old so and so's' to be banned from all Caravan Club sites in the interests of the majority. I would be interested to know how many people agree?+1
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whos going to get the plus 4's0 -
I would plus 4 but according to Mrs ips I am a grumpy old git so I shall refrain
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Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs, not all dogs? I was brought up to 'live and let live' in a society which contains all sorts and types of people (including children!), dogs, chickens and a myriad of
other animals. Regrettably, many debates on this site revert to suggestions to 'ban' or 'charge for' things that the poster does not personally like. Some of the previous posts on this thread fall into that category.
If it was me, I would ask for 'grumpy old so and so's' to be banned from all Caravan Club sites in the interests of the majority. I would be interested to know how many people agree?+1
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whos going to get the plus 4'sOh, I'll do it, +4 and raise you a high 5
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+5, that's for the shy boy spk
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Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs, not all dogs? I was brought up to 'live and let live' in a society which contains all sorts and types of people (including children!), dogs, chickens and a myriad of
other animals. Regrettably, many debates on this site revert to suggestions to 'ban' or 'charge for' things that the poster does not personally like. Some of the previous posts on this thread fall into that category.
If it was me, I would ask for 'grumpy old so and so's' to be banned from all Caravan Club sites in the interests of the majority. I would be interested to know how many people agree?+1
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whos going to get the plus 4's...Are they back in fashion?
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Forgive me for referring to the original post, but wasn't it about Dangerous Dogs,
Exactly!. Any dog can be dangerous at some time, so that means all dogs.
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Trouble is that dog owners treat their pets as "children" and think they will not attack. At the end of the day, they are animals and will go to basics and attack if given the correct incentive
I think you mean some dog owners, as the majority of us are sensible it is as usual the odd few as with any behavioural traits.
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Just reported that another child has died and another with life changing injuries after being attacked by a dog in Colchester. No other info available yet. The thing is that stuff like this keeps happening and on past evidence it seems that inappropriate
people are keeping inappropriate dogs for their circumstances.Mrs One was knock over by an out of control Boxer dog in Lowestoft on Wednesday. The owner didn't apologies just come up with the usual, 'he's just being friendly', when I suggested they put their pet on a lead as they didn't have any control of it, you
can guess the response, it ended with "off "As I've said previously I'm not anti dog just anti irresponsible owners and the sooner they are banned from keeping dogs the better.
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Just reported that another child has died and another with life changing injuries after being attacked by a dog in Colchester. No other info available yet. The thing is that stuff like this keeps happening and on past evidence it seems that inappropriate
people are keeping inappropriate dogs for their circumstances.Mrs One was knock over by an out of control Boxer dog in Lowestoft on Wednesday. The owner didn't apologies just come up with the usual, 'he's just being friendly', when I suggested they put their pet on a lead as they didn't have any control of it, you
can guess the response, it ended with "off "As I've said previously I'm not anti dog just anti irresponsible owners and the sooner they are banned from keeping dogs the better.
The problem is Oneputt these irresponsible people will take no notice of a ban, just like the guy in Manchester who was recently caught driving while disqualified for the 61st time.
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When we had our last Collie she tended to leave behind sad neigbours on adjacent pitches
