Carbon monoxide alarm gone off
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Whoever said that the gas bottles NEED to be tirned off? Neither Corners nor I, as far as I can see. It's all a matter of choise. However, in response to the safety question, I would think that a gas bottle leaking into a front locked would be a lot less
safe than a fully loaded bollard with a fused electrical system.0 -
I did think that myself. Just get a CO2 detector if you are worried about it. But as said earlier, gas is not CO2. You would smell a gas leak.
A CO2 detector??? I know we all produce a lot of hot air on here but I can't imagine why a CO2 detector would be fitted in a caravan/MH, or indeed if one ever has been fitted
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As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?
I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.
As long as it makes you happy BB
corners, read the post......i was illustrating what a pain this level of 'safety' would be for those who use gas as their primary fuel.....
so, lets cut to the chase, why do you turn your gas off/on multiple times per trip/day, before/after meals?
Just to let you know, for us this might be once a day, every other day or so, therefore no bid deal.
Although I can't see
what concern of yours it is how often and why I do it.!i actually asked Corners....
however, as in my post above, im curious to find out why a gas bottle needs to be turned off......
why is it any less safe than a bollard with four vans worth of appliances plugged in.....
are 'gas only' campers subject to a risk they arent aware of....
Ok lets do a simple test (you can try this at home if you want BB) I'll switch on my electric kettle and you turn on the gas below your kettle. We both walk away for 60 seconds and then we walk back and then we hold a lit match near our kettles.
And as a seasoned overseas traveller perhaps you could answer this question. If gas is so safe why do you have to switch off the gas
at the cylinder when travelling by ferry and wasn't there something about 80% full on the tunnel? These ferries don't ask you to disconect your battery do they?0 -
cylinders are only ever filled to 80% max, either by the supplier or from using the built in cutoff device in refillables.
ok, try this at home....switch off your kettle, unplug it and then stick your fingers in the live socket.....
electricity can be just as deadly as gas......
....as can a 'harmless' 12v system.....
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I did think that myself. Just get a CO2 detector if you are worried about it. But as said earlier, gas is not CO2. You would smell a gas leak.
A CO2 detector??? I know we all produce a lot of hot air on here but I can't imagine why a CO2 detector would be fitted in a caravan/MH, or indeed if one ever has been fitted
Yes, I meant carbon monoxide, as I'm sure you well knew......
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Just to let you know, for us this might be once a day, every other day or so, therefore no bid deal.
Although I can't see what concern of yours it is how often and why I do it.!In fairness Nellie.....why post it on a public forum if it's no-one else's business and you don't want anyone else to have an opinion on it?
I hope all this banter hasn't detracted from the op getting the information that she requested.
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You didn't appear to answer why ferries ask hte cylinder be turned off?
I think you are just being silly and your usual ruffling feathers routine BB, to stick your fingers in a live socket takes a degree of planning, you really want to do it, it cannot happen by accident and then the RCD would trip so no danger. A gas leak
can happen by accident and can be more deadly if not checked quickly.The reason why I do what I do is that about seven years ago I asked for the orange pipe to be changed at the yearly service. The first time we used the gas I opened the cylinder but in the caravan no gas was coming through, I checked everything and then
went back to the gas bottle. There was a terrible smell of gas, the service people had not conected the other end of the pipe at all, the gas was just spilling into the locker! I know that gas is heavier than air and would have fallen through the safety holes
and it was only esaping for a few minutes, but imagine if I had done what most do and turn on the bottle when we arrived and then left it for a few hours?You can make all the fun you want of of me (and that does seem to be your main aim in life on many of my posts) but I will not compromise the safety of my family so I'll just carry on my way.
Yes we did report the dealer and got a full refund.
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I did think that myself. Just get a CO2 detector if you are worried about it. But as said earlier, gas is not CO2. You would smell a gas leak.
A CO2 detector??? I know we all produce a lot of hot air on here but I can't imagine why a CO2 detector would be fitted in a caravan/MH, or indeed if one ever has been fitted
Yes, I meant carbon monoxide, as I'm sure you well knew......
Yes I did, sorry - couldn't resist
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"You would smell a gas leak." Unfortunately I know a lot of people who wouldn't smell a gas leak but I certainly don't go out to turn off the gas - except for travelling. Hopefully the people who service my van know what they are doing and all is in good
order. That is since I changed from an NCC approved workshop who left my van with serious leaks - not once but twice! Fortunately there isn't a lot wrong with my sense of smell.0 -
"You would smell a gas leak." Unfortunately I know a lot of people who wouldn't smell a gas leak but I certainly don't go out to turn off the gas - except for travelling. Hopefully the people who service my van know what they are doing and all is in good
order. That is since I changed from an NCC approved workshop who left my van with serious leaks - not once but twice! Fortunately there isn't a lot wrong with my sense of smell.mine was NCC approved, got a sticker to show it!
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As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?
I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.
As long as it makes you happy BB
corners, read the post......i was illustrating what a pain this level of 'safety' would be for those who use gas as their primary fuel.....
so, lets cut to the chase, why do you turn your gas off/on multiple times per trip/day, before/after meals?
Just to let you know, for us this might be once a day, every other day or so, therefore no bid deal.
Although I can't see
what concern of yours it is how often and why I do it.!i actually asked Corners....
however, as in my post above, im curious to find out why a gas bottle needs to be turned off......
why is it any less safe than a bollard with four vans worth of appliances plugged in.....
are 'gas only' campers subject to a risk they arent aware of....
Ok lets do a simple test (you can try this at home if you want BB) I'll switch on my electric kettle and you turn on the gas below your kettle. We both walk away for 60 seconds and then we walk back and then we hold a lit match near our kettles.
And as a seasoned overseas traveller perhaps you could answer this question. If gas is so safe why do you have to switch off the gas
at the cylinder when travelling by ferry and wasn't there something about 80% full on the tunnel? These ferries don't ask you to disconect your battery do they?Never had a problem with the gas on our caravan's or motorhome but did have a very lucky escape with a 12v short in one of the bed boxes and luckily got a slight smell of burning just before leaving for a day trip in Dorset. Had to call out a mobile carvan
service to rewire the van on the CL site. Another minute or so and we would have been looking for a new caravan! Electrician could not understand why the fuse did not blow but advised fitting a lower rated one than recommended by manufaturer.0 -
Corners, I always turned the gas off for safety reasons, sooner safe than sorry. What's a few seconds?
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Gas bottle isolated when 'tugging', any other time (whilst on holiday) its left on with gas through to all appliances. It's how its designed to be and although things can happen at any time its why I have a gas safety check annually.
Oh and change the batteries in both the alarms also before each season, whether they want it or not.
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I did think that myself. Just get a CO2 detector if you are worried about it. But as said earlier, gas is not CO2. You would smell a gas leak.
A CO2 detector??? I know we all produce a lot of hot air on here but I can't imagine why a CO2 detector would be fitted in a caravan/MH, or indeed if one ever has been fitted
Yes, I meant carbon monoxide, as I'm sure you well knew......
Yes I did, sorry - couldn't resist
...bit hypocritical, Corners?
making fun of Ian and then squealing when you think someone is doing it to you....although i wasnt...
look, ive genuinely never heard of anyone going outside and turning of the gas between cooking a meal....hence my surprise/question...
and back to your RCD analogy, many gas systems these days (including my last two vans) have 'gas safe' features where, even if the valve was open and the hose came away from the regulator, the anti rupture system would close the break and no gas would escape....
yes, ferry services do ask to turn off gas systems, because the rules were set many years ago and not every van has a gas safe system....
perhaps, when they all do, they might change the rules.....we dont know.
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Ian made an honest mistake, and likewise when I've done similar I don't mind people picking up on it (I remeber Ian picking me on on spelling sight as site) You however pick (bullied) on my and other's caraving practice and made fun of it. Even after I've given an explaination as to why you're still doing it. I'm sorry BB you like to pick on people, you have admitted it yourself.
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Ian made an honest mistake, and likewise when I've done similar I don't mind people picking up on it (I remeber Ian picking me on on spelling sight as site) You however pick (bullied) on my and other's caraving practice and made fun of it. Even after I've
given an explaination as to why you're still doing it. I'm sorry BB you like to pick on people, you have admitted it yourself.
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corners, if ive upset you I apologise.....
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If we go out for the day,we normally turn the gas off and sometimes also trip the bollard ,as I have seen an un occupied leisure vehicle burn and it was fueled by gas from the cylinder,the fire was caused by thoughtless person drying a towel on an electic
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corners, if ive upset you I apologise.....
accepted BB
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corners, if ive upset you I apologise.....
accepted BB
thank you...how civilised
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If we go out for the day,we normally turn the gas off and sometimes also trip the bollard ,as I have seen an un occupied leisure vehicle burn and it was fueled by gas from the cylinder,the fire was caused by thoughtless person drying a towel on an electic heater,
I take it your fridge is empty
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If we go out for the day,we normally turn the gas off and sometimes also trip the bollard ,as I have seen an un occupied leisure vehicle burn and it was fueled by gas from the cylinder,the fire was caused by thoughtless person drying a
towel on an electic heater,I take it your fridge is empty
...I said sometimes the bollard
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If we go out for the day,we normally turn the gas off and sometimes also trip the bollard ,as I have seen an un occupied leisure vehicle burn and it was fueled by gas from the cylinder,the fire was caused by thoughtless person drying a
towel on an electic heater,I bet your neighbours love you......when they return to find their fridge defrosted.......
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If we go out for the day,we normally turn the gas off and sometimes also trip the bollard ,as I have seen an un occupied leisure vehicle burn and it was fueled by gas from the cylinder,the fire was caused by thoughtless person drying a
towel on an electic heater,I bet your neighbours love you......when they return to find their fridge defrosted.......
...Each pitch has its own trip
and the new bollards do not need you to turn the plug to make it live0
