Carbon monoxide alarm gone off

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  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2016 #32

    I find it really annoying when the servicers don't leave the van as they found it - in this case it may be dangerously out of kilter?  Minor annoyances have been them leaving the water valve open and I don't know till I have found pools of water under the
    caravan and an empty aquaroll! 

  • triky auto
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    edited March 2016 #33

    Undecided  Exactly Pippah ."" Can't get the staff ""would fit ! ??

  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2016 #34

    Laughing

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited March 2016 #35

    Just gone off again, seems to be its every time the Heafter kicks in it goes off.  Have turned Heater off.  Am now cold and knackered!  

    just remebered a thread about truma combi heaters giving off a plastic burnt smell when they cool down, truma says this is normal and nothing to worry about. It happens to us occasionally but has never set the alarm off. You get could a mobile caravan engineer
    in or get a cheap fan heater from a local supermarket.

    Write your comments here...Regarding the comment about Truma heater smelling of plastic there was a prblem back in 2006 which led to a formal recall of vehicles with certain Truma boilers. My vehicle at that time was repaired by our local agent free of charge.
    So if anyone has a boiler which smells of burnt plastic get a Trum approved dealer to look at it. I will post a separate thread on this as well. 

  • ClubMember1333A783BB
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    edited March 2016 #36

    Yeah, sorry John.  Didn't pay much attention at the time as I thought my water heater was on electricty.  I guess it'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow when I reconnect the gas.  If the alarm goes off again I will disconnect again and keep it disconnected until I can find an engineer.

    Hi Phillippa, you have probably already done your test by reconnecting your gas but just wanted to say to be very carefull. If the water heater vent was covered then that is most likely the source of the problem, as you say, but as has been pointed out already there should be some form of safety interlock there to prevent gas water heating operating when that vent is covered. When reconnecting your gas suggest you leave the van, doors and all windows closed for at least an hour to prove your theory correct. Don't wait inside the van for the alarm to go off.......I'm sure I am stating the obvious but don't treat CO problems lightly, remember CO has no smell, not visible and sneaks up on you slowly (you fall asleep). Hope your all OK by now!

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #37

    According to the 2012 Lunar handbook, the controls are as follows:

    Firstly, you can isolate the gas to the water heater by turning off the relevant isolation tap. The Heater and Water heater manifolds (taps) are located under the front, off-side bed, towards the front bulkhead. There are two of them and the bottom one is
    for the water heater. Off is when the knob is in the vertical position.

    For the heater itself, there should be two little control panels on a wall somewhere - they both say "Truma Ultrastore" on them.

    The gas one has three settings - 50 degrees and 70 degrees and a central '0' setting for off. There is also a red "failure" LED on it.

    (the electric control looks similar, but has 850 watt.1300watt and 0 settings and says "230 V" on the bottom of it.)

    Turn the rotary knob on the gas control to select position '0'.

    Turn the selector knob on the electric control to turn the electric water heater on.

  • PGL
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    edited March 2016 #38

    I note your van is a Lunar. The CO alarm went off several times in our Lunar, and there was no gas on at all. When I rang the service department it was "it happens, we'll just replace it". They did, and no problem since. Perhaps they got a bad batch!

  • Phillippa42
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    edited March 2016 #39

    Thanks Ian, that's been really helpful and ive got the water heater on elec now......well I did have but the site is having a power cut and the wardens have gone out so I've switched it off to conserve my battery.  Bonus is I've worked out how to do the
    fridge on gas.  Just got to work out the heater now!

  • Phillippa42
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    edited March 2016 #40

    Ive been using the gas switch ever since I got the van.....the one that says 50 and 70.  Didn't realise it was has.  Sometimes the red light came on, I just thought it meant it was running, or was up to temp or something.  will use the other switch from
    now on. 

  • Firedragon
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    edited March 2016 #41

    It's a lunar quasar 2012 van btw, if anyone knows how to ensure the water heater is on electricty only I would be grateful.  I can't access the online manuals on the painfully slow internet.  

    First thing I did when we got our new van last year was print off a copy of the manual, I always like to have a hard copy with us especially when getting used to a new van, as you say not always possible to get online to look up a problem when you are away.
    Hope you get to the bottom of this, at least you are learning your way round your van now Laughing

    Alison

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #42

    you weren't using any gas but (as HD says) was the gas cylinder turned off? actually at the cylinder itself? You could have a leak somewhere in the pipes from the bottle?

    I'm paranoid about gas I only use it for cooking and only turn the cylinder on at the time we actaully use it.

    And here's me thinkingthat I was the only one who did that. Thanks for the reassurance that I'm not that strange after all.Wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #43

    you weren't using any gas but (as HD says) was the gas cylinder turned off? actually at the cylinder itself? You could have a leak somewhere in the pipes from the bottle?

    I'm paranoid about gas I only use it for cooking and only turn the cylinder on at the time we actaully use it.

    And here's me thinkingthat I was the only one who did that. Thanks for the reassurance that I'm not that strange after all.Wink

     on while we cook and sometimes its off before we eat. 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #44

    you weren't using any gas but (as HD says) was the gas cylinder turned off? actually at the cylinder itself? You could have a leak somewhere in the pipes from the bottle?

    I'm paranoid about gas I only use it for cooking and only turn the cylinder on at the time we actaully use it.

    And here's me thinkingthat I was the only one who did that. Thanks for the reassurance that I'm not that strange after all.Wink

     on while we cook and sometimes its off before we eat. 

    Yes, us too. I dash out while OH is dishing up!Happy

  • triky auto
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    edited March 2016 #45

    Surprised ,Oh !! It's all a learning curve Phillippa !! Where things are and how they operate etc.Good for you ,to get stuck in and sorted out.Not every 'van is the same.This one now of mine ,German built,is SO different !! That's what weekend 'shakedowns'are for .Good luck .Hang on in there .Wink.

  • Pippah45
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    edited March 2016 #46

    Philippa - my gas water switch goes red if I haven't removed the outside vent.  Also - no need to switch off heater to conserve the battery - it shouldn't work on battery power nor will the fridge either.   

  • SteveL
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    Philippa - my gas water switch goes red if I haven't removed the outside vent.  Also - no need to switch off heater to conserve the battery - it shouldn't work on battery power nor will the fridge either.   

    Worth always switching off when you are not using it though,  as then there is no risk of draining it while it is switched on, or powering it up before you fill it with water. We did this and although the element did cut out and reset, I would not want to do it to often.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #48

    Glad you got sorted, Phillippa......Suggest you get a hanbook - you should be able to Google and download when you get home.

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #49

    well thats a first (and second and third, it seems.....).

    ...ive never heard of anyone nipping out to turn the gas off between cooking a meal and eating it.....Undecided

    isnt that what the hob 'knob' does.....?

    gas stays switched on once pitched till we leave....

    well that rules out non-ehu winter camping if you cant have your heating (or hot water) on gas overnight....

    ....turn it on to boil the kettle, turn it off while drinking tea, turn it on to heat water to wash up, turn off when finished, turn it on of van gets a bit chilly at night, turn it off when warm enough....

    blimey, carpet (and gas bottle knob...) will be worn out with all that leaving and entering the van.....

    im worn out just thinking about it....

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #50

    I did think that myself. Just get a CO2 detector if you are worried about it. But as said earlier, gas is not CO2. You would smell a gas leak.

  • nelliethehooker
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    well thats a first (and second and third, it seems.....).

    ...ive never heard of anyone nipping out to turn the gas off between cooking a meal and eating it.....Undecided

    isnt that what the hob 'knob' does.....?

    gas stays switched on once pitched till we leave....

    well that rules out non-ehu winter camping if you cant have your heating (or hot water) on gas overnight....

    ....turn it on to boil the kettle, turn it off while drinking tea, turn it on to heat water to wash up, turn off when finished, turn it on of van gets a bit chilly at night, turn it off when warm enough....

    blimey, carpet (and gas bottle knob...) will be worn out with all that leaving and entering the van.....

    im worn out just thinking about it....

    No, none of those BB. Just use EHU, and for heating too. Just adjust the temperature as we need it, and heats the water as well. We're quite willing to forego staying on non-ehu sites......our choise.Wink

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #52

    ....but dont you pull the ehu cable out of the bollard after youve boiled the kettle and before you drink the tea?Wink

    surely theres as much risk of the bollard overloading and busting into flames from the amount of electrical items some plug in as there is of a gas bottle 'exploding'.....

    yes as much chance.....none.

    i realise that some dont 'do' gas (despite the fact that the heaters and water boilers we all use were originally designed to be run on gas only).....but this is a bit OTT....

    as i said, ive been using MH forums for years and never come across anyone who went outside to turn the gas off between cooking dinner and eating it....

    arent you worried about the risk you are subjecting yourself to while the dinner is actually cooking....?Undecided

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #53

    As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?

    I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.Undecided

    As long as it makes you happy BB

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?

    I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.Undecided

    As long as it makes you happy BB

     

    Hear Hear. Just don't see what he's getting at. However it will add to his star quotient, so I'll just let him get on with it. Perhaps it's just his strange sense of humour, or maybe he thinks that he knows everything and like to prove it to one and all!!Wink

  • young thomas
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    ridiculed, no....just ensuring theres nothing Ive (and many others) havent missed.....

    why turn a gas bottle off between cooking and eating a meal yet not do the same with the ehu bollard between boiling an electric kettle and drinking the tea...?

    i don't see any difference in the danger level, does anyone know differently..

    ...ie the number of bottle explosions v the number of bollard fires.....?

    would you manually turn off your gas boiler at home several times a day or is gas not allowed in the home at all....?

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #56

    As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?

    I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.Undecided

    As long as it makes you happy BB

     

    Hear Hear. Just don't see what he's getting at. However it will add to his star quotient, so I'll just let him get on with it. Perhaps it's just his strange sense of humour, or maybe he thinks that he knows everything and like to prove it
    to one and all!!Wink

    hardly.....however, doesn't 109 reviews 'add to ones star quotient?'Wink

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #57

    As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?

    I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.Undecided

    As long as it makes you happy BB

     

    corners, read the post......i was illustrating what a pain this level of 'safety' would be for those who use gas as their primary fuel.....

    so, lets cut to the chase, why do you turn your gas off/on multiple times per trip/day, before/after meals?Happy

  • Bob2112
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    edited March 2016 #58

    It might be kinder to pretend you haven't noticed him.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #59

    As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?

    I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.Undecided

    As long as it makes you happy BB

     

    corners, read the post......i was illustrating what a pain this level of 'safety' would be for those who use gas as their primary fuel.....

    so, lets cut to the chase, why do you turn your gas off/on multiple times per trip/day, before/after meals?Happy

    Just to let you know, for us this might be once a day, every other day or so, therefore no bid deal.Laughing Although I can't see what concern of yours it is how often and why I do it.!

  • young thomas
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    It might be kinder to pretend you haven't noticed him.

    Who said that?....not that i noticedWink

  • young thomas
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    As usual two members post their way of doing things and its is ridiculed by BB, is our way of doing things affecting you in any way? Why bother posting just to make fun of us?

    I really don't get the turning on/off wearing out and being cold in the night nonsense. I use electricity for heating during the night and boiling water.Undecided

    As long as it makes you happy BB

     

    corners, read the post......i was illustrating what a pain this level of 'safety' would be for those who use gas as their primary fuel.....

    so, lets cut to the chase, why do you turn your gas off/on multiple times per trip/day, before/after meals?Happy

    Just to let you know, for us this might be once a day, every other day or so, therefore no bid deal.Laughing Although I can't see
    what concern of yours it is how often and why I do it.!

    i actually asked Corners....Wink

    however, as in my post above, im curious to find out why a gas bottle needs to be turned off......

    why is it any less safe than a bollard with four vans worth of appliances plugged in.....

    are 'gas only' campers subject to a risk they arent aware of....