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edited November 2016 in Club Membership #1

Good to see positive results on page 70

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  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #2

    Bit cryptic that. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited November 2016 #3

    Good to see any of it once it arrives.

  • Surfer
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    edited November 2016 #4

    Good to see positive results on page 70

    There is no breakdown of the figures so how can it be positive as the surplus could be from commission on selling other products like insurance and nothing to do with sites and the core business of the CC?

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #5

    Personally I don't mind where the profit comes from within the business. Without full details it is difficult to know the full picture. How much site income is spent on improvements, maintenance, future sites etc ...... oh yes and on better provision for
    motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #6

    oh yes and on better provision for motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

    Well they have an awful lot of cash in hand, 4 times more than the C&CC.

    peedee

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #7

    Personally I don't mind where the profit comes from within the business. Without full details it is difficult to know the full picture. How much site income is spent on improvements, maintenance, future sites etc ......
    oh yes and on better provision for motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

    i believe part of the works going on here are to provide serviced pitches....something we dont need, more for caravanners who cant (or dont want to) fetch water and cart their waste away.....so, swings and roundabouts really.Wink

    the annoying thing is that these serviced pitches would be most useful well away from the shower block, thus saving a long walk in the cold/rain.

    so, where are they?....within a few yards of the shower block, no doubt because 'the services are handy to tap into'...Sad

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #8

    Yep near the shower block is often a favourite. However near to a service point should be just as easy in most cases

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #9

    I was pleased to read the AGM questions from the floor, thanks Ted for representing CLs! And also the person who questioned the Caravanner of the Year exploits. However the reply from A. N. Other that she found it amusing and so did others in her office
    probably wont be representative of the potential new members which the club needs to attract.

  • Dawn F
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    edited November 2016 #10

    Not sure the club really needs to attract new members.  It doesn't cope too well with the ones it has.  Pitch availability is often difficult.  With the amount of money they seem to be bragging about having surely spending some on new sites, bigger sites
    and better facilities on sites would be more advantagous to us existing members who have helped build the pot of money

  • brue
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    edited November 2016 #11

    It looks as though they intend to expand service pitches and sites with social complexes.

  • Kennine
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    edited November 2016 #12

    Social Complexes Brue, ??.  Does that mean pubs, discos and resturants. Frown    Not for me I'm afraid !

    Cheers ................K

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #13

    Personally I don't mind where the profit comes from within the business. Without full details it is difficult to know the full picture. How much site income is spent on improvements, maintenance, future sites etc ...... oh yes and on better provision for motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

    i believe part of the works going on here are to provide serviced pitches....something we dont need, more for caravanners who cant (or dont want to) fetch water and cart their waste away.....so, swings and roundabouts really.Wink

    the annoying thing is that these serviced pitches would be most useful well away from the shower block, thus saving a long walk in the cold/rain.

    so, where are they?....within a few yards of the shower block, no doubt because 'the services are handy to tap into'...Sad

    Not on the sites I've been on, Troutbeck Head is a good few minutes walk from the top most service pitches, and there are closer non service pitches, (as in next door to). Also Melrose - there are closer non service pitches. Burford again, much closer non service pitches (as in right opposite and behind. Norfolk broadshas four whole rows of non service pitches close to the toilets before you get to the service pitches!

     I am sure there are sites where this is true but you seem to be saying all service pitches are close to the toilets? You have been to all of them BB to make such a statement?

    Just wondering which sites you have gleaned this information from. I didn't have you down as a service pitch spotter being a motor homerWink

    And who says we don't need service pitches? you as a motor homer you mean? Oh well 'we' don't need MH service points.

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #14

     

    Not on the sites I've been on, Troutbeck Head is a good few minutes walk from the top most service pitches,

    I seem to remember somebody saying that the serviced pitches were there as there had once been some statics in that area?? 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #15

    It looks as though they intend to expand service pitches and sites with social complexes.

    good for service pitches, not so good for social complexes

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #16

     

    Not on the sites I've been on, Troutbeck Head is a good few minutes walk from the top most service pitches,

    I seem to remember somebody saying that the serviced pitches were there as there had once been some statics in that area?? 

    yes that was me! But my point is still true. They are across the road from the toilet block and not right next door or behind it

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #17

    Good to see any of it once it arrives.

    Its available on the App.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #18

    Personally I don't mind where the profit comes from within the business. Without full details it is difficult to know the full picture. How much site income is spent on improvements, maintenance, future sites etc ......
    oh yes and on better provision for motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

    i believe part of the works going on here are to provide serviced pitches....something we dont need, more for caravanners who cant (or dont want to) fetch water and cart their waste away.....so, swings and roundabouts really.Wink

    the annoying thing is that these serviced pitches would be most useful well away from the shower block, thus saving a long walk in the cold/rain.

    so, where are they?....within a few yards of the shower block, no doubt because 'the services are handy to tap into'...Sad

    ...Well if more serviced pitches are going in for caravans? then it partly compensates for the New type M/Van empty points that are not req by C/vansWink

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #19

    And who says we don't need service pitches? you as a motor homer you mean? Oh well 'we' don't need MH service points.

    but the Club has acknowledged the growth in membership is in motorhome ownership not caravans. I suspect that is even more so if you took pitch nights into account. Motorhomes in the shoulder and winter months outnumber caravans on site.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #20

    Personally I don't mind where the profit comes from within the business. Without full details it is difficult to know the full picture. How much site income is spent on improvements, maintenance, future sites etc ......
    oh yes and on better provision for motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

    i believe part of the works going on here are to provide serviced pitches....something we dont need, more for caravanners who cant (or dont want to) fetch water and cart their waste away.....so, swings and roundabouts really.Wink

    the annoying thing is that these serviced pitches would be most useful well away from the shower block, thus saving a long walk in the cold/rain.

    so, where are they?....within a few yards of the shower block, no doubt because 'the services are handy to tap into'...Sad

    ...Well if more serviced pitches are going in for caravans? then it partly compensates for the New type M/Van empty points that are not req by C/vansWink

    very true point !

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #21

    I did notice in the questions from the floor a comment by the previose chairman Bob Black Hoping that the competion for caravaner of the year is Not carried on ,but he was basically poo pooed by an unknown member of the exec commiteeUndecided 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2016 #22

    Social Complexes Brue, ??.  Does that mean pubs, discos and resturants. Frown    Not for me I'm afraid !

    Cheers ................K

    Nor for me. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited November 2016 #23

    And who says we don't need service pitches? you as a motor homer you mean? Oh well 'we' don't need MH service points.

    but the Club has acknowledged the growth in membership is in motorhome ownership not caravans. I suspect that is even more so if you took pitch nights into account. Motorhomes in the shoulder and winter months outnumber caravans on site.

    peedee

    and I have absoluty no problem with what is parked next to me on site. Just making a counter point to BB's 'we don't need service pitches' (we being MHs)

    Perhaps unlike BB, I believe that as a club we should cater for everyone, so have yes more MH service points and service pitches (which MH do and can use don't they?) and not snipe at one particular type of outfit, which I am sure he wasn't doing at all.

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2016 #24

    Social Complexes Brue, ??.  Does that mean pubs, discos and resturants. Frown    Not for me I'm afraid !

    Cheers ................K

    Nor for me. 

    Nor us - there are more than enough commercial sites out there providing that type of facility! Sad

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #25

    And who says we don't need service pitches? you as a motor homer you mean? Oh well 'we' don't need MH service points.

    but the Club has acknowledged the growth in membership is in motorhome ownership not caravans. I suspect that is even more so if you took pitch nights into account. Motorhomes in the shoulder and winter months outnumber caravans on site.

    peedee

    Undecided

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #26

    Also stated is that there has only been a slight reduction in CLs. One voice offered the suggestion that post brexit our farmers may need to look once again at diversifying into such areas of cash flow. 

    Membership numbers stable and projected to improve, income streams, wherever it comes from- relatively healthy, reserves positive, whole thing looks pretty good to me.

    Not the doom, gloom and despondency some often suggest when advocating change!

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #27

    Personally I don't mind where the profit comes from within the business. Without full details it is difficult to know the full picture. How much site income is spent on improvements, maintenance, future sites etc ......
    oh yes and on better provision for motorhome waste Sticking Tongue Out 

    i believe part of the works going on here are to provide serviced pitches....something we dont need, more for caravanners who cant (or dont want to) fetch water and cart their waste away.....so, swings and roundabouts really.Wink

    the annoying thing is that these serviced pitches would be most useful well away from the shower block, thus saving a long walk in the cold/rain.

    so, where are they?....within a few yards of the shower block, no doubt because 'the services are handy to tap into'...Sad

    Not on the sites I've been on, Troutbeck Head is a good few minutes walk from the top most service pitches, and there are closer non service pitches, (as in next door to). Also Melrose - there are closer non service pitches. Burford again, much closer non
    service pitches (as in right opposite and behind. Norfolk broadshas four whole rows of non service pitches close to the toilets before you get to the service pitches!

     I am sure there are sites where this is true but you seem to be saying all service pitches are close to the toilets? You have been to all of them BB to make such a statement?

    Just wondering which sites you have gleaned this information from. I didn't have you down as a service pitch spotter being a motor homerWink

    And who says we don't need service pitches? you as a motor homer you mean? Oh well 'we' don't need MH service points.

    corners, just replying to Easys comment where he was obviously having a pop at the club for spending money on something he sees as only of a benefit to MHers.

    my response, indicating what ive seen at Broadway, highlights that a good proportion of the redevelopment is not aimed at MHers, rather those caravanners who perfer a serviced pitch.

    MHers dont tend to want these as they already have many days worth of water on board, so they are aimed more at caravanners who need/want this facility.

    i know nothing of other sites, (nor did my post suggest this), i was just looking out over the site here and reporting what was happening.

    so, just redressing the balance with Alan, no more, no lessHappy

    so glad youve taken an interest.....

    by the way, good evening to you....Happy

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2016 #28

    BB, quite a few MHers seem to like the serviced pitches, probably as it saves them moving off the pitch if staying for several days.

    Have noticed this at sites such as Chatsworth, Stonehaven, Black Horse Farm, and Barnard Castle.

    Most do not hook up to the services, but presumably like the convenience of their own water and drain very close.

  • brue
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    Social Complexes Brue, ??.  Does that mean pubs, discos and resturants. Frown    Not for me I'm afraid !

    Cheers ................K

    Nor for me. 

    Nor us - there are more than enough commercial sites out there providing that type of facility! Sad

    Nick Lomas at the AGM page 72 of the mag....."further new sites and a wide range of facilities in due course, such as more cafes, bars and restaurants"

    Personally I'd love to see some smaller, more basic sites but there you go.Undecided

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #30

    BB, quite a few MHers seem to like the serviced pitches, probably as it saves them moving off the pitch if staying for several days.

    Have noticed this at sites such as Chatsworth, Stonehaven, Black Horse Farm, and Barnard Castle.

    Most do not hook up to the services, but presumably like the convenience of their own water and drain very close.

    Could be trying to guarantee a hard standing???

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited November 2016 #31

    Not the doom, gloom and despondency some often suggest when advocating change!

    Of concern must be how the Club covers the changes in legislation. They have to find £1 million. Where do you think that is coming from? I'm pretty sure it won't be from Alan Rogers or travel and insurance!

    peedee